Jean-Francois,

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On Fri, Aug 2, 2024, 22:59 Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca>
wrote:

> On 2024-08-02 21:39, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
>
> > Following process, redacted portions of the XONA Partners report have
> > been published.
> >
> > https://crtc.gc.ca/otf/eng/2022/8000/c12-202203868.htm
>
>
> I have some question on terminology: (pardon my newbieness, just wanting
> to be pedantic on terminology).
>
>
>
> "Rogers staff removed the Access Control List policy filter from the
> configuration of the distribution routers. This consequently resulted in
> a flood of IP routing information into the core network routers, which
> triggered the outage."
>
> The report mentions Rogers uses IS-IS as interior routing protocol buit
> i'll use the more generic OSPF bellow.
>
>
> Assumtion here is that only IS-IS or OSPF is used.  In a dual stack
> network, its possible both are used - one for each protocol family .


> Questions:
>
> 1- I had always heard of routers facing the Internet (and thus doing
> BGP) as "edge" or "border".   Is the term "distribution router" common
> in the industry
>

The term was common 20+ years ago.  Core / distribution  / access - being
common legacy terms.



> 2- When a border/edge router receives some 980,000 route entries from
> the transit provider, aren't those packets addressed to the IP address
> of that edge router with port 179 and going to the router's internal BGP
> process instead of being routed?   (report makes it look those packets
> were left to run wild and propagate onto the intranet due to lack of ACL).
>
> Internet edge is not the only edge in complex operator networks.  Often
> services are colorated in central areas if a network.  These area may not
> be eBGP but rather iBGP.



>
>
>
> Would the rules that define which BGP routes are to be converted to OSPF
> and then propagated to OSPF peers on the intranet be called an "Access
> Control List"?  If not, what would they be called? (routing policy filter?)
>
>
> No. Doubt anyone actually exports bgp to igp anymore.  ACLs are often used
> for route policy.
>
>
>
> (I have always though of ACL as a packet routing rule, not of route
> building one).
>
> Would it be fair to state that a large ISP network would use BGP to OSPF
> route propagation to load balance upload-heavy site?  BGP1 advertises
> itself to OSPF-A B and C as the router to talk to for packets desined to
> upload-heavy site,  while BGP2 does the same for internal routers OSPF-D
> E and F?
>
> (Just trying to understand the scope of route information that Rogers's
> BGP routers would want to send to the internal routing protocol.
>
>
> In short.  The way the report was written,  you will not be able to
> decipher what actually happened.


>
>
> Thanks in advance for any precisions on the above. Just want to make
> sure I puch right when I make requests for disclosure of the redacted
> portions.
>


Victor K

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