Validin, made an interesting observation on this. I am also a Spectrum
residential customer,  none of their equipment, run my own DNS server
(pihole).

My DHCP Assigned DNS servers are

2001:1998:f00:1::1
2001:1998:f00:2::1

bash-3.2$ dig -x 2001:1998:f00:1::1 +short
dns-cac-lb-01.rr.com.
bash-3.2$ dig -x 2001:1998:f00:2::1 +short
dns-cac-lb-02.rr.com.
bash-3.2$


bash-3.2$ dig dns-cac-lb-01.rr.com +short
209.18.47.61
bash-3.2$ dig dns-cac-lb-02.rr.com +short
209.18.47.62
bash-3.2$

bash-3.2$ dig @209.18.47.61 validin.com +short
157.245.112.183
137.184.54.107
bash-3.2$ dig @209.18.47.62 validin.com +short
157.245.112.183
137.184.54.107
bash-3.2$

bash-3.2$ dig @2001:1998:f00:1::1 validin.com +short
127.0.0.54
bash-3.2$

bash-3.2$ dig @2001:1998:f00:2::1 validin.com +short
127.0.0.54
bash-3.2$

Same servers on V4 were returning correct info, but on V6 were not.

However, a few minutes later :

bash-3.2$ dig @2001:1998:f00:1::1 validin.com +short
157.245.112.183
137.184.54.107
bash-3.2$ dig @2001:1998:f00:2::1 validin.com +short
157.245.112.183
137.184.54.107
bash-3.2$

Deltas :

bash-3.2$ dig @2001:1998:f00:1::1  validin.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> @2001:1998:f00:1::1 validin.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42329
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;validin.com.                   IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
validin.com.            60      IN      A       127.0.0.54

;; Query time: 37 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:1998:f00:1::1#53(2001:1998:f00:1::1)
;; WHEN: Tue Apr 23 13:50:03 EDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 45

bash-3.2$

bash-3.2$ dig @2001:1998:f00:1::1 validin.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> @2001:1998:f00:1::1 validin.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 9667
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;validin.com.                   IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
validin.com.            600     IN      A       157.245.112.183
validin.com.            600     IN      A       137.184.54.107

;; Query time: 157 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:1998:f00:1::1#53(2001:1998:f00:1::1)
;; WHEN: Tue Apr 23 14:19:20 EDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 72

bash-3.2$

Seems like quite possibly they are intermittently caching bunk data from
something.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 1:39 PM Validin Axon <a...@validin.com> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> > I suspect what’s happened is an incorrect assumption that DNS is even
> the issue here. Because you mentioned Spectrum Shield, I suspect it is not.
>
> I appreciate the response and links. However, I've been told repeatedly by
> Spectrum that they're not blocking with Spectrum Shield. Despite these
> assurances, I've filled out a removal request through their published
> removal process several times, and the response I received stated that
> we're not being blocked. This check agrees with that:
> https://www.spectrum.net/support/forms/verify_url_security
>
> "Security Shield Is Not Blocking This Site
> The URL provided is not being blocked by Spectrum Security Shield
> The URL you entered should be accessible."
>
> Further, checking Spectrum DNS servers on the Spectrum network show that
> my company's main domain and all subdomains resolve to 127.0.0.54. So, if
> CujoAI/Spectrum Shield are not using DNS query responses to control access,
> then it's not CujoAI/Spectrum Shield that is responsible for the incorrect
> DNS response. Using a different recursive resolve, I can resolve our
> domains just fine. I can also resolve other domains that point to the same
> IPs as the sinkholed domain just fine. However, many people use the
> Spectrum default DNS servers and cannot access my website because of this.
>
> > You should contact Charter/Spectrum to have them investigate what their
> system might be blocking this content.
>
> I have tried, for months, including spending many hours on chat and phone
> support, to reach someone within Spectrum support who is capable of both
> understanding and directing me to someone who can fix the problem, but it
> hasn't happened yet. I've asked to talk to someone on the DNS team and was
> given a flat "No." I've posted here hoping that someone in the
> ISP-connected world knows SOMEONE at Spectrum, Akamai, or whichever company
> is actually responsible for the Spectrum DNS servers who can provide a
> remediation path.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 12:59 PM 'Livingood, Jason' via axon <
> a...@validin.com> wrote:
>
>> > However, there's no correction process for Spectrum's DNS sinkhole
>>
>> > But back to the topic: someone mentioned to me that Spectrum may not be
>> the direct providers for the DNS services they provide to their customers.
>> If anyone knows anything about how I might discover and reach out to the
>> people responsible, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect what’s happened is an incorrect assumption that DNS is even the
>> issue here. Because you mentioned Spectrum Shield, I suspect it is not.
>>
>> Spectrum Shield (
>> https://www.spectrum.com/resources/internet-wifi/benefits-of-spectrum-security-shield)
>> is a customer-managed security protection service built into their gateways
>> (I assume you can turn it off). The malware and content detection engine
>> behind that is very likely run by CujoAI (https://cujo.com/) and it does
>> not use DNS query/response exchanges as the control mechanism (in part to
>> counter-act DNS-changing malware or malware using its own DoH channel for
>> example).
>>
>> You should contact Charter/Spectrum to have them investigate what their
>> system might be blocking this content.
>>
>> Comcast (where I work) runs a similar system (
>> https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/using-xfinity-xfi-advanced-security)
>> and maintains a site to report these sorts of issues (
>> https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/report-blocked-website).
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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