You most certainly can, it's called a VPN. One side initiates a connection to the other.
;) Regards, Christopher Hawker On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 07:21, Abraham Y. Chen <ayc...@avinta.com> wrote: > Hi, Forrest: > > 1) I have a question: > > If I subscribe to IPv6, can I contact another similar subscriber to > communicate (voice and data) directly between two homes in private like the > dial-up modem operations in the PSTN? If so, is it available anywhere right > now? > > Regards, > > > Abe (2024-01-15 15:20) > > > Let me start with I think we're largely on the same page here. > > The transition I see happening next is that the consumer traffic largely > moves to IPv6 with no CG-NAT. That is, if you're at home or on your phone > watching video or doing social media or using whatever app is all the rage > it's going to be over IPv6. > > My point was largely that I believe that at some point the big consumer > (not business) focused companies are going to realize they can use market > forces to encourage the remaining IPv4-only eyeball networks to transition > to support IPv6 connections from their customers. I don't know if the > timeframe is next year or 20 years from now, but I do know the tech > companies are very good at looking at the costs of maintaining backwards > compatibility with old tech and figuring out ways to shed those costs when > they no longer make sense. If they can utilize various forms of pressure > to make this happen quicker, I fully expect them to do so. > > Inside a business network, or even at home, it wouldn't surprise me if > we're both long gone before IPv4 is eradicated. I know there is going to > be a lot of IPv4 in my network for years to come just because of product > lifecycles. > > As far as "CG-NAT-like" technologies go (meaning NAT in a provider's > network), they're unfortunately going to be with us for a long time since > customers seem to want to be able to reach everything regardless of the > IPv4 or IPv6 status of the customer or endpoint. I also expect that most > service providers with business customers are going to be carrying both > IPv4 and IPv6 for a long time, not to mention doing a fair bit of > translation in both directions. > > I won't go deeply into the whole IPv4 vs IPv6 discussion for a business > customer's "public address" because the topic is far too nuanced for an > email to cover them accurately. Suffice it to say that I don't disagree > that business today largely wants IPv4, but some seem to be becoming aware > of what IPv6 can do and are looking to have both options available to them, > at least outside the firewall. > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 2:04 AM Brett O'Hara <br...@fj.com.au> wrote: > >> Ok you've triggered me on your point 2. I'll address the elephant in the >> room. >> >> IPv4 is never ever going away. >> >> Right now consumer services are mostly (mobile, wireless, landline, wide >> generalization) are IPv6 capable. Most consumer applications are ipv6 >> capable, Google, Facebook, etc.There is light at the very end of the tunnel >> that suggests that one day we won't have to deploy CGNAT444 for our >> consumers to get to content, we may only have to do NAT64 for them to get >> to the remaining Ipv4 Internet. We're still working hard on removing our >> reliance on genuine ipv4 ranges to satisfy our customer needs, It's still a >> long way off, but it's coming. >> >> Here's the current problem. Enterprise doesn't need ipv6 or want ipv6. >> You might be able to get away with giving CGNAT to your consumers, but your >> enterprise customer will not accept this. How will they terminate their >> remote users? How will they do B2B with out inbound NAT? Yes, there are >> solutions, but if you don't need to, why? They pay good money, why can't >> they have real ipv4? All their internal networks are IPv4 rfc1918. They >> are happy with NAT. Their application service providers are ipv4 >> only. Looking at the services I access for work things like SAP, >> SerivceNow, Office386, Sharepoint, Okta, Dayforce, Xero, and I'm sure many >> more, none can not be accessed on ipv6 alone.. Their internal network >> lifecycle is 10+ years. They have no interest in trying new things or >> making new technology work without a solid financial reason and there is >> none for them implementing ipv6. And guess where all the IP addresses >> we're getting back from our consumers are going? Straight to our good >> margin enterprise customers and their application service providers. >> Consumer CGNAT isn't solving problems, it's creating more. >> >> The end of IPv4 isn't nigh, it's just privileged only. >> >> PS When you solve that problem in 50 years time, I'll be one of those old >> fogey's keeping an IPv4 service alive as an example of "the old Internet" >> for those young whippersnappers to be amazed by. >> >> Regards, >> Brett >> >> > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free.www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > <#m_7461260763569918794_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >
