The issue in Houston is Dallas.

I reached out to 30-40 networks and 90% of them all said they just back haul to 
Dallas and have no interest in peering in Houston.  It’s a real hard town to 
get any traction in.  If you’re local and have some insight, I’d be super happy 
to talk to you. 

Aaron

> On Oct 14, 2023, at 8:48 PM, Tim Burke <t...@mid.net> wrote:
> 
> I would say that a 1Gbit IP transit in a carrier neutral DC can be had for a 
> good bit less than $900 on the wholesale market.
> 
> Sadly, IXP’s are seemingly turning into a pay to play game, with rates almost 
> costing as much as transit in many cases after you factor in loop costs.
> 
> For example, in the Houston market (one of the largest and fastest growing 
> regions in the US!), we do not have a major IX, so to get up to Dallas it’s 
> several thousand for a 100g wave, plus several thousand for a 100g port on 
> one of those major IXes. Or, a better option, we can get a 100g flat internet 
> transit for just a little bit more.
> 
> Fortunately, for us as an eyeball network, there are a good number of major 
> content networks that are allowing for private peering in markets like 
> Houston for just the cost of a cross connect and a QSFP if you’re in the 
> right DC, with Google and some others being the outliers.
> 
> So for now, we'll keep paying for transit to get to the others (since it’s 
> about as much as transporting IXP from Dallas), and hoping someone at Google 
> finally sees Houston as more than a third rate city hanging off of Dallas. 
> Or… someone finally brings a worthwhile IX to Houston that gets us more than 
> peering to Kansas City. Yeah, I think the former is more likely. 😊
> 
> See y’all in San Diego this week,
> Tim
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 18:04, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This set of trendlines was very interesting. Unfortunately the data
>> stops in 2015. Does anyone have more recent data?
>> 
>> https://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php
>> 
>> I believe a gbit circuit that an ISP can resell still runs at about
>> $900 - $1.4k (?) in the usa? How about elsewhere?
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> I am under the impression that many IXPs remain very successful,
>> states without them suffer, and I also find the concept of doing micro
>> IXPs at the city level, appealing, and now achievable with cheap gear.
>> Finer grained cross connects between telco and ISP and IXP would lower
>> latencies across town quite hugely...
>> 
>> PS I hear ARIN is planning on dropping the price for, and bundling 3
>> BGP AS numbers at a time, as of the end of this year, also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

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