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On Thursday, October 12th, 2023 at 18:59, Niels Bakker <niels=na...@bakker.net> 
wrote:


> RIPE have a policy that states 

Which is exactly what I said Neils.  When I asked about it, they pointed me at 
a policy.

Well hell, theoretically my company has a policy that describes zero-tolerance 
to spam. And yet if I published such a policy on the website, do you think 
spammers would adhere to it ?

As for you implying it is impossible for a RIR to validate such information, 
just ask anyone who is a Nominet (.uk registry) member.

Every year, Nominet do an audit of every member.  They pull a random-sample of 
domains from each member and attempt to perform an automated check of end-user 
name and address details.

If Nominet are unable to perform the automated check, then you receive an email 
from the Nominet compliance department asking for your assistance with a manual 
check (this happens rarely, Nominet's automated checks normally work).

Nominet do not expect 100% perfection, there is a tolerance percentage.

RIPE could do the same.  And some might argue that it is easier for RIPE 
because all we are asking is for a valid abuse contact, so its not like Nominet 
who have to verify e.g. registrant company ID numbers.

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