Go for it. I’m sure NTS’ complexity clocks lots of hours for expensive 
consultants :)

Me, I’m sticking with GPS.)

-mel via cell

On Aug 8, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Rubens Kuhl <rube...@gmail.com> wrote:


So little deployment that has 3500 occurrences according to 
shodan.io<http://shodan.io>.  With such few choices, It should be hard to find 
suitable options.

Rubens




Em ter., 8 de ago. de 2023 13:02, Mel Beckman 
<m...@beckman.org<mailto:m...@beckman.org>> escreveu:
I’m familiar with NTS, which is pointedly not NTP.  That’s like saying “TCP 
port 80 can be made secure,: just use a VPN!” Perhaps when NTS is widely 
deployed it will be an option. As the RFC was only approved in 2020, that will 
probably take a decade. Or more. (I’m talking about you, IPv6 :) Not to mention 
the complexity or NTS for hardware implementation in network elements, a 
primary application (https://tinyurl.com/ntsishard).

 -mel

> On Aug 8, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Rubens Kuhl 
> <rube...@gmail.com<mailto:rube...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 12:12 PM Mel Beckman 
> <m...@beckman.org<mailto:m...@beckman.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Until the Internet NTP network can be made secure, no.
>
> Internet NTP can be made secure, it's called NTS.
> https://developers.cloudflare.com/time-services/nts/ describes it with
> links to the RFC, and describes one of the many NTP servers that is
> available with NTS, time.cloudflare.com<http://time.cloudflare.com>. I 
> already mentioned 5 others,
> and there are many more than those 6.
>
>
> Rubens

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