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C:\Users\jluthman>dig www.moi.gov.cy @1.1.1.1 +short 212.31.118.26 On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:43 AM Saku Ytti <s...@ytti.fi> wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 15:26, Matt Harris <m...@netfire.net> wrote: > > >> When something is provided at no cost, I don't see how it can be >> unethical unless they are explicitly lying about the ways in which they use >> the data they gather. >> Ultimately, you're asking them to provide a costly service (support for >> end-users, the vast majority of whom will not ask informed, intelligent >> questions like the members of this list would be able to, but would still >> demand the same level of support) on top of a service they are already >> providing at no cost. That's both unrealistic and unnecessary. There's an >> exceedingly simple solution, here, after all: if you don't like their >> service or it isn't working for you as an end-user, don't use it. >> > > Thank you for the philosophical perspective, but currently my interest is > not to debate merits or lack thereof in laissez-faire economics. > > The problem is, a large number of people will use 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8 or > 9.9.9.9 despite my or your position about it. There is incentive for > providers to provide it 'for free', as it adds value to their products as > users are compensating providers with the data. > > Occasionally things don't work and when they do not, we need a way to > inform the provider 'hey you have a problem'. You could be anywhere in this > chain, with no ability to impact any of the decisions. > > I know there is a real problem, I know real users are impacted, I know > almost none of them will have the ability to understand why there is a > problem or remediate it. > > -- > ++ytti >
