"Anyway, the risk/reward calculation for NOT signing the LRSA right now is really a no-brainer. It's just unfortunate that means I won't get an early start on RPKI."
Excellent 1 line summary! Tom Krenn Network Architect Enterprise Architecture - Information Technology -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+tom.krenn=hennepin...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 11:45 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rube...@gmail.com> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:09 PM Rubens Kuhl <rube...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote: > > No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't > > participate in RPKI and the system has one less participant. And that's a > > shame. > > That's only true in the current environment where RPKI is only used to > invalidate bogus routes. When any reachability for RPKI-unknowns is > lost, that will change. Hi Rubens, If you want to bet me on folks ever deciding to discard RPKI-unknowns down in the legacy class C's I'll be happy to take your money. > But it will be too late then to join the system, so you just sell it > for USD 50k and start using NAT. Since I can convert to the regular ARIN RSA at any time and gain access to RPKI the concept of "too late" doesn't really exist here. > Just a calculation: current LRSA fee is USD 150, cap is 25 USD per > year increase. 2X-Small is USD 500 per year, so it will take 14 years > to reach that level. Pick your poison, NAT or LRSA. Yah, except at some point I'll get a /48 bumping my $150/yr AS fee up to a $250/yr service fee. Then the delta to add my legacy /23 is only $250. In 4 years, the LRSA fee will be $250, the same amount. But that's not the break-even point. If I wait one year, its $250*3=$750 vs $150+$175+$200+$225=$750. I break even on the legacy fee schedule by waiting just one year and then taking the regular annual fee. Actually, it's a little funkier than that because my AS and /23 are under different org ids. When I do all this, I'll have to pay the one time $500 M&A fee or else in year 5 the LRSA for the /23 plus the $250/yr for IPv6 and an AS will actually cost more than $500/yr and will keep growing annually to $750. Anyway, the risk/reward calculation for NOT signing the LRSA right now is really a no-brainer. It's just unfortunate that means I won't get an early start on RPKI. Regards, Bill Herrin -- For hire. https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbill.herrin.us%2Fresume%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctom.krenn%40hennepin.us%7C4ffca4d22059437c9bba08da979e4c4e%7C8aefdf9f878046bf8fb74c924653a8be%7C0%7C0%7C637989003408555221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cx9wE8mascaw3qbbK1J5w7q0KgqydLxnvkkpmJXK5W4%3D&reserved=0 Disclaimer: If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please immediately notify the sender of the transmission error and then promptly permanently delete this message from your computer system.
