You keep using the term “imaginary” when presented with evidence that does not 
match your view of things. 

There are many REAL scenarios where single flow high throughout TCP is a real 
requirements as well as high throughput extremely small packet size. In the 
case of the later, the market is extremely large, but it’s not Internet traffic.

Shane

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Masataka Ohta <mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> 
> wrote:
> 
> Saku Ytti wrote:
> 
>>> which is, unlike Yttinet, the reality.
>> Yttinet has pesky customers who care about single TCP performance over
>> long fat links, and observe poor performance with shallow buffers at
>> the provider end.
> 
> With such an imaginary assumption, according to the end to end
> principle, the customers (the ends) should use paced TCP instead
> of paying unnecessarily bloated amount of money to intelligent
> intermediate entities of ISPs using expensive routers with
> bloated buffers.
> 
>> Yttinet is cost sensitive and does not want to do
>> work, unless sufficiently motivated by paying customers.
> 
> I understand that if customers follow the end to end principle,
> revenue of "intelligent" ISPs will be reduced.
> 
>                        Masataka Ohta
> 
> 
> 

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