"I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber loops to end user customers at any kind of reasonable product-scale".
Sorry; didn't know I had to show my work here. :-) Cheers, -- jra ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 2:24:45 PM > Subject: Re: Frontier Dark Fiber > Any regional ILEC spanning at least a few counties in size will have some > amount of inter-CO dark fiber, whether they want to sell it to any 3rd > parties is entirely another question. > > > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 08:17, Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com> wrote: > >> I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber, since >> air distribution fan out is all GPON, is it not? >> >> If their fanout was active ethernet it might be a different story but... >> >> Cheers, >> -- jra >> >> On July 13, 2022 7:40:47 AM EDT, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>> I'm looking for a contact at Frontier that can discuss dark fiber. >>> >>> My current account exec says they don't offer it, yet prior conversations >>> with him and a previous SE revealed that they very much did (just didn't >>> have availability on the paths I wanted at the time). >>> >>> Their web site highlights it fairly proudly. >>> >>> >>> I'm aware that availability varies. >>> >>> I'm aware that they likely don't want to sell it. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274