On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 11:02:25AM -0400, Michael Butler via NANOG wrote: > I treat these folk with the same respect they afford me. Not once in 30 > years of having a connected network (v4 or v6) has any entity asked "is it > OK if we .. ?". > > To my mind, it seems rather idiotic and self-defeating to have the plumbing > congested with packets intended to measure congestion :-( > > Michael
Well put! > > On 6/20/22 09:46, Mel Beckman wrote: > > Carsten, > > > > No, it’s more like 50,000 furnace guys who show up several times a day to > > rattle doorknobs, attempt to push slim Jim’s into window latches, hack your > > garage door opener, sneak into your back garden, and fly drones around your > > home to see what valuables you might have. Yes, some of them are > > altruistic, but some are self-righteous officious boobs, and the vast > > majority are career criminals that will rob your house, drain your > > retirement account, and kill your family with a spoofed SWAT raid. > > > > -mel beckman > > > > > On Jun 20, 2022, at 4:20 AM, Carsten Bormann <c...@tzi.org> wrote: > > > On 2022-06-20, at 04:18, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > When researchers, or whoever, claim their scanning an altruistic > > > > service, I ask them if they would mind someone coming to their home and > > > > trying to open all the doors and windows every night. > > > > > > Well, it is more like the guy who comes once a year and checks that your > > > central heating is not going to blow up. > > > > > > (Disclaimer: I have supervised students who designed and executed benign > > > mass-scans of the IPv4 Internet in order to validate hypotheses about > > > market penetration of certain security updates, and I definitely would do > > > that again if there is a good reason to perform such a scan.) > > > > > > Grüße, Carsten > -- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
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