Hello Jason & All ,
On Thu, 26 May 2022, Livingood, Jason via NANOG wrote:
Latency is a limitation for things that are generally relatively low bandwidth
(interactive audio, zoom, etc.).
Higher bandwidth won?t solve the latency problem
+1
You Mean something a little less than ...
My traceroute [v0.94]
replaceme (192.168.253.147) -> Snipped
2022-05-26T13:06:34-0800
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Drop Rcv Last Avg Best Wrst
StDev
1. ...Snip...
2. AS??? 192.168.251.1 0.0% 89 0 89 1.3 1.3 0.8 1.9
0.2
3. AS??? 10.5.5.227 1.1% 89 1 88 227.5 123.9 31.1 276.5
69.8
4. AS??? 10.5.5.185 2.2% 89 2 87 43.5 48.7 28.5 72.0
10.3
5. AS??? 10.5.21.241 1.1% 89 1 88 36.6 40.3 30.5 64.3
5.7
6. AS??? 10.128.88.234 2.2% 89 2 87 52.9 39.8 31.8 63.8
5.3
7. AS??? 10.128.128.125 10.1% 89 9 80 42.5 40.0 29.6 55.7
4.7
8. AS??? 10.128.118.217 72.7% 89 64 24 36.7 39.6 29.7 49.8
4.8
9. AS??? 10.128.0.166 31.5% 89 28 61 60.0 58.8 45.8 86.5
8.0
10. AS??? 10.128.0.170 85.2% 89 75 13 101.1 81.7 70.7 101.1
9.7
...snip...
Oh , Sorry you were talking about latncy not Packet loss .
While I do understand that icmp responses ARE Low priority the above
still gives some useful info . IMO Packet losses like the above are far worse
than latency , But as far as an eyeball networks users experience makes
absolutely no difference .
IMO as we enter the 'post-gigabit era', an extra 1 Gbps to the home will
matter less than 100 ms or 500 ms lower working latency (optimally sub-50 ms,
if not sub-25 ms). The past is exclusively speed-focused -- the future will be
Speed + working latency + reliability/resiliency + consistency of QoE +
security/protection + WiFi LAN quality.
One more set of nit's , "security/protection" by who's standard should
this be taken from , Eyeball users , Eyeball network Operators , His
upstreams , US Gov , Nato , ... ?
Where can each of those mentioned in the above have their input listened
too & acted apon ?
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