+1 On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 11:26 Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> *nods* I agree. > > Usually, it's too many spineless people that won't stand up to someone > that couldn't make friends in high school. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dorn Hetzel" <d...@hetzel.org> > *To: *sro...@ronan-online.com > *Cc: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Saturday, February 19, 2022 10:16:06 AM > *Subject: *Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections > > Yeah, the evils of HOAs go *way* beyond shitty internet.... > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 11:15 AM <sro...@ronan-online.com> wrote: > >> Sounds like you’ve never lived in an HOA. >> >> On Feb 19, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> >> "A single customer who has no sway over an entire HOA" >> >> If you can't sway the whole HOA, then the problem must not be that bad. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Cory Sell via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> >> *To: *"Mike Lyon" <mike.l...@gmail.com> >> *Cc: *"NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:16:37 PM >> *Subject: *Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections >> >> See this is my point. People always dismiss these issues and say they >> could easily get service. Then, when someone comes in with an actual >> request for said service, the answer we get is about structured deals with >> HOA/property management. What about for a single customer? A single >> customer who has no sway over an entire HOA, a single customer who is told >> to go “pound sand” by the property manager. >> >> If you can’t give a single figure or even rough numbers for a single >> customer, I’d say avoid dismissing the problem. If you can provide that >> now, I’d be very curious to still see them. :) >> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:10 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Depends on many factors… >> >> If the whole HOA wanted service, then a licensed link could possibly be >> put in delivering a high capacity circuit delivering about 100 Mbps to the >> subscriber. Price to the customer would vary depending on how the deal is >> structured with the HOA/property management company. >> >> Could also look into getting some fiber delivered and feed it from that. >> >> -Mike >> >> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:02, Cory Sell <corys...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >> Out of pure curiosity, let’s assume they COULD put an antenna on the >> roof… >> >> What is the service? Bandwidth, latency expectation, cost? >> >> Note that in almost every condominium or apartment complex I have heard >> of, they do NOT allow roof builds. This is why satellite TV in those areas >> require people to put an antenna on their patio, even if it’s half-blocked. >> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :) >> >> Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one! >> >> -Mike Lyon >> Ridge Wireless >> >> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I'll once again please ask for specific examples as I continue to see >>> the generic "it isn't in some parts of San Jose". >>> >> >> >> You want a specific example? >> >> Friend of mine asked me to help them get better Internet connectivity a >> few weeks ago. >> >> They live here: >> >> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Meridian+Woods+Condos/@37.3200394,-121.9792261,17.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fca909a8f5605:0x399cdd468d99300c!8m2!3d37.3190694!4d-121.9818295 >> >> Just off of I-280 in the heart of San Jose. >> >> I dug and dug, and called different companies. >> The only service they can get there is the 768K DSL service they already >> have with AT&T. >> >> Go ahead. Try it for yourself. >> >> See what service you can order to those condos. >> >> Heart of Silicon Valley. >> >> Worse connectivity than many rural areas. :( >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
