Well if you look to the right you won't see it, but if you look to the left you 
will see it.

Meaning, that for a successful attack to work, the infected host needs to first 
download a payload from ldap.

And ldap runs on port 389/636. 

You probably can't see the log4j vulnerability in the https, but you should be 
able to see your servers querying weird stuff on internet on port 389/636. 

Just don't allow your important hosts to fetch payload on internet on port 
389/636.

Et voila! Look to the left, not to the right.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=ddostest...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Nick 
Hilliard
Sent: December 11, 2021 7:12 AM
To: Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Log4j mitigation

Andy Ringsmuth wrote on 11/12/2021 03:54:
> The intricacies of Java are over my head, but I’ve been reading about this 
> Log4j issue that sounds pretty bad.
> 
> What do we know about this? What, if anything, can a network operator do to 
> help mitigate this? Or even an end user?

The payload can be contained in https, so there is no way of detecting / 
stopping this at the network level.  Installations need to be upgraded / fixed.

https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/security.html

1. upgrade log4j to 2.15.0 and restart all java apps 2. start java with "-D 
log4j2.formatMsgNoLookups=true" (v2.10+ only) 3. start java with 
"LOG4J_FORMAT_MSG_NO_LOOKUPS=true" environment variable (v2.10+ only) 4. zip -q 
-d log4j-core-*.jar org/apache/logging/log4j/core/lookup/JndiLookup.class

There's a lot of scanning going on at the moment, so if you have an exposed 
java instance running something which includes log4j2, you may already be 
compromised.

Nick

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