Me... 67.
I arrived as an MIT Freshman, about a month before Ray Tomlinson sent
the first ARPANET email (1971), and then about 15 years later had an
office next to him at BBN. I was at BBN when the guy in the next office
pulled the plug on the ARPANET.
(And... just because the topic of network management systems started
this whole thing, my name is on the Architecture document for DDN
Network Management.)
Barry Shein (bzs) was the guy who finally pushed NSF into allowing
commercial traffic (he was running "The World" - the first service to
provide public access to the backbone).
Miles Fidelman
Kain, Becki (.) wrote:
How old are all you people?
😊
(JK)
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On Oct 20, 2021, at 14:19 , b...@theworld.com wrote:
On October 20, 2021 at 16:08 m...@beckman.org (Mel Beckman) wrote:
Mark,
Before 1983, the ARPANET wasn’t an internet, let alone The Internet.
Each ARPANET connection required a host-specific interface (the
“IMP”) and simplex Network Control Protocol (NCP). NCP used users'
email addresses, and routing had to be specified in advance within each NCP
message.
I think you mean before 1982.
TCP/IP was deployed starting in 1982. NCP was deprecated (removed from the
ARPANET) January 1, 1983, but TCP/IP was implemented (and deployed) prior to
that.
Then again there were IMPs fitted to various systems like TOPS-10,
ITS, Vax/BSD Unix, IBM370, etc.
So was that really all that different from ethernet vs, oh, wi-fi or
fiber today, you needed an adapter?
It really wasn’t, but even if you just want to count from TCP/IP forward, 1983
isn’t the correct date. 1983 was when we turned off NCP. It wasn’t when we
turned on TCP/IP. The turn on of TCP/IP occurred over several months, so
there’s no particular date that can be assigned to it.
Owen
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown
