Oh and I remember the day we first got mosaic and I thought “why would I need 
pictures on the internet?”

😊


From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bkain1=ford....@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Miles 
Fidelman
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:47 PM
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Since we seem to be getting pedantic...

There's "The (capital I) Internet" - which, most date to the flag day, and the 
"Public Internet" (the Internet after policies changed and allowed commercial & 
public use over the NSFnet backbone - in 1992f, as I recall).

Then there's the more general notion of "internetworking" - of which there was 
a considerable amount of experimental work going on, in parallel with TCP/IP.  
And of (small i) "internets" - essentially any Catenet style 
network-of-networks.

Miles Fidelman

Mel Beckman wrote:
Michael,

“Looking into” isn’t “is” :)
 -mel


On Oct 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Michael Thomas 
<m...@mtcc.com><mailto:m...@mtcc.com> wrote:



On 10/20/21 8:26 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
Mark,

As long as we’re being pedantic, January 1, 1983 is considered the official 
birthday of the Internet, when TCP/IP first let different kinds of computers on 
different networks talk to each other.

It’s 2021, hence the Internet is less than, not more than, 40 years old.  Given 
your mathematical skills, I put no stock in your claim that we still can’t “buy 
an NMS that just works.” :)


Pedantically, IP is 40 years old as of last month. What you're talking about is 
the flag day. People including myself were looking into internet protocols well 
before the flag day.

Mike




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