On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:56 AM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
> But, I certainly mean that CDN operators should not request >> peering directly to access/retail ISPs merely because they have >> their own transit, because the transit is not at all neutral. >> > > I'm still confused. > > Let's say I have a CDN network, with a datacenter somewhere, an edge site > somewhere else. I carry my bits from my datacenter, across my internal > network, to my edge site. This is where I intend to hand the bits over to > someone else to carry them to the end user. > > Let's say in this site, I have a paid transit connection , and a peering > session directly with the end user's ISP. Where is anything related to > neutrality being 'violated', regardless of which path I choose to send the > bits out? > > It sounds like masataka is saying that the network between your 'datacenter' and 'cdn node' is a 'transit network'. I think 'transit network' is a sentence fragment much like: "bgp peer" .. it's overloaded (in this conversation at least) so probably some more clarity is required in the conversation to progress in a meaningful manner. > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:36 AM Masataka Ohta < > mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote: > >> Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> >> For network neutrality, backbone providers *MUST* be neutral >> >> for contents they carry. >> >> >> >> However, CDN providers having their own backbone are using >> >> their backbone for contents they prefer, which is *NOT* >> >> neutral at all. >> >> >> >> As such, access/retail providers may pay for peering with >> >> neutral backbone providers for their customers but should >> >> reject direct peering request from, actively behaving against >> >> neutrality, CDN providers. >> >> > If I am understanding you correctly, are you arguing that anyone with a >> > network MUST be forced to become a transit provider for anyone else, in >> the >> > name of "neutrality"? >> >> No, not at all. >> >> For example, CDN (N stands for a network) operators may rely on >> neutral transit providers to connect their CDN to access/retail >> providers. >> >> But, I certainly mean that CDN operators should not request >> peering directly to access/retail ISPs merely because they have >> their own transit, because the transit is not at all neutral. >> >> Masataka Ohta >> >
