> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50 , Brian Johnson <brian.john...@netgeek.us> wrote:
> 
> Side question on this thread…
> 
> Is it everyones current expectation that if a provider were to switch to IPv6 
> and drop IPv4 that the customers would all be just fine with that? I believe 
> that there are several applications used by some of the the loudest customers 
> (typically gamers and network gurus), not to mention some business 
> applications that would break or be sub-optimal at best. I see CGN as the 
> band aid to this issue, not the cure to the problem.

Today? no.

At some point when a relatively small number of remaining laggards among major 
content providers move forward? Yes.

Do you really think that those applications/vendors wouldn’t move quickly if a 
couple of major eyeball providers announced “Effective X date”, we’re going to 
start offering a $X/month discount to any customer(s) who are willing to stop 
using IPv4.

You an only cover an arterial bleed with a band-aid for so long before it 
becomes silly, septic even. If you’re wondering how quick that point is coming 
up, I suggest you check your mirrors.

Owen

> 
> Discuss…?
> 
> - Brian
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> There are real issues with dual-stack, as this thread started out with.
>>> I don't think there is a need neither to invent IPv6 problems, nor to
>>> promote IPv6 advantages.  What we need is a way out of dual-stack-hell.
>> 
>> I don’t disagree, but a reversion to IPv4-only certainly won’t do it.
>> 
>> I think the only way out is through. Unfortunately, the IPv6 resistant forces
>> are making that hard for everyone else.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
> 

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