Where does this "You can only have about 200-300 subscribers per IPv4
address on a CGN." limit come from? I have seen several apartment
complexes run on a single static IPv4 address using a Mikrotik with
NAT.

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:49 PM Baldur Norddahl
<baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 16:48, Masataka Ohta 
> <mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
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>> Today, as /24 can afford hundreds of thousands of subscribers
>> by NAT, only very large retail ISPs need more than one
>> announcement for IPv4.
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> You can only have about 200-300 subscribers per IPv4 address on a CGN. If you 
> try to go further than that, for example by using symmetric NAT, you will 
> increase the number of customers that want to get a public IPv4 of their own. 
> That will actually decrease the combined efficiency and cause you to need 
> more, not less, IPv4 addresses.
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> Without checking our numbers, I believe we have at least 10% of the customers 
> that are paying for a public IPv4 to escape our CGN. This means a /24 will 
> only be enough for about 2500 customers maximum. The "nat escapers" drown out 
> the efficiency of the NAT pool.
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> The optimization you need to do is to make the CGN as customer friendly as 
> possible instead of trying to squeeze the maximum customers per CGN IPv4 
> address.
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> Perhaps IPv6 can lower the number of people that need to escape IPv4 nat. If 
> it helps just a little bit, that alone will make implementing IPv6 worth it 
> for smaller emerging operators. Buying IPv4 has become very expensive. Yes 
> you can profit from selling a public IPv4 address to the customer, but there 
> is also the risk that the customer just goes to the incumbent, which has old 
> large pools of IPv4 and provides it for free.
>
> Regards,
>
> Baldur
>

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