I get about 23/6 Mbps for $50/month here in Silicon Valley from my ATT DSL line.

> On May 27, 2021, at 18:11, Matt Brennan <brenna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'd love to see 100/100, but I don't see it happening anytime soon ... 
> especially for $50. 
> 
> I pay $150/month for 300/8 at home and that's the best upload I can get where 
> I live ... in a major city. 
> 
>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:41 PM Eric Dugas via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>> I'm not in the US but in Canada it's been 50/10 since 2016 and we're just 
>> "almost" there yet. IMO the target should have been more like 100/30 or even 
>> 50 of upload.
>> 
>> 100/100 might be a bit short sighted considering it'll take years to 
>> accomplish the necessary last-mile/distribution upgrades in rural areas.
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:31 PM Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year
>>> 
>>> year  speed
>>> 
>>> 1999  200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than 
>>> dialup/ISDN speeds)
>>> 
>>> 2000  200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service 
>>> providers had 128 kbps upload)
>>> 
>>> 2010   4 mbps down / 1 mbps up
>>> 
>>> 2015   25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired)
>>>          5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless)
>>> 
>>> 2021   ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps)
>>> 
>>> Not only in major cities, but also rural areas
>>> 
>>> Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't 
>>> advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must 
>>> deliver better service.
>>> 

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