On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:36 AM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
> As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private >> space, as far as the Internet was concerned. >> > > The DoD allocation of 11/8 predates the concept of 'private network space'. > > 11/8 was first assigned to the DoD in RFC 943 in April of 1985. The > concept of IPv4 space for private networks was first defined in RFC 1597, > March 1994. (Which eventually would become RFC1918. ) > > The fact that certain parties decided on their own that space not present > in the global routing table was 'fair game' or 'private' doesn't make them > correct, it simply makes them ill informed. > My reading of this thread is that the space is now permanently bogon’d for some honeypot. so yeah, it is fair game. Enjoy the public goods all ! > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:18 PM Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> It’s the INTERNET that is civilian, not the IP space. As long as that IP >> space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private space, as far as the >> Internet was concerned. Now DoD has moved it into the civilian Internet, >> and I treat them as potentially malicious as I do any other organization >> that lies, cheats, and steals the public trust. >> >> -mel >> >> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: >> >> This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of >> >> transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum. >> > >> > You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have >> > never been "civilian." They came into DoD's possession when this was >> > all still a military project funded by what's now DARPA. >> > >> > Personally, I think we may have an all time record for the largest >> > honeypot ever constructed. I'd love to be a fly on that wall. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Bill Herrin >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > William Herrin >> > b...@herrin.us >> > https://bill.herrin.us/ >> >>