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Subject: Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:15:34 -0700
From: Paul Emmons <p...@iosaz.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Hello All!
I've been out of the loop here and but have some updates.
There was a change last spring and I moved on to other projects. But
that hasn't worked out for the IX.
I have regained access to all of the elements, including the email and
voip. Let me reach out to each of you offline in the coming days.
I have been able to reach out to a few locals that are willing to help
get the project back up to where it needs to be.
If I haven;t reached out to you in the next 48 hours or you have
something urgent, please reach out to me here (my personal email) or via
the Phoenix-IX Contacts
peer...@phoenix-ix.net
+1 602 688-6414
~Paul Emmons
On 11/16/2020 12:23 PM, Neil Hanlon wrote:
While I agree it is objectively irresponsible to abandon a project
without passing it to another, I think that possibly in this situation
we don't know all the details?
2020 has been a difficult year for everyone. Perhaps Paul (and
whomever else may be responsible for Phoenix-IX) were subject to
things this year beyond their control which led them to be unable to
work on the project and unable to transfer it, either.. unfortunate,
yes.. but not malicious surely.
If Paul _is_ reading these messages.. I think support is the best path
forward.. If there are things that can be done to assist/take over the
IX... maybe that would help (as you, Kate, had offered towards the
beginning of this all). Though of course, the first step is _reaching_
them... Maybe this can be turned into a "win" for everyone. So:
Paul/Phoenix-IX -- let the NANOG community know how they/we can help.
--
Neil
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Kate Gerry <kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com>> wrote:
An update on my side, we reached out to PhoenixNAP, one of the
Phoenix-IX's vendors.
PhoenixNAP reached out all of their contacts at Phoenix-IX and
have received no response. They are in as much of the dark as the
rest of us. I feel like I'm on the Ghost ship Phoenix-IX.
What I don't understand, is how somebody could abandon a project
without passing it to another person or entity. This is extremely
irresponsible.
—
Kate
On Nov 12, 2020, at 05:11, Marcus Josephson <mjoseph...@inap.com
<mailto:mjoseph...@inap.com>> wrote:
I tried to get a link to PHX-IX for months. Never heard back from
them, went with Digital Realty Phoenix
*From:*NANOG <nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap....@nanog.org
<mailto:nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap....@nanog.org>>*On Behalf
Of*Kate Gerry
*Sent:*Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:06 AM
*To:*Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
*Cc:*nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> list
<nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
*Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
Matt,
I am running on a huge assumption here, but I think Phoenix-IX
runs on donated infrastructure. From what I recall, there was
only an NRC to join Phoenix-IX.
And in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks like HE already
started one with Stellar Technologies. https://48ix.net
<https://48ix.net/> but it is only in a single facility. So until
that IX grows, both in peers and footprint, I'm stuck on Phoenix-IX.
I have wondered what happens if a participant storms the IX. Will
somebody appear? Because attempts to reach their NOC/peering
handles has resulted in a lack of response.
I also wonder how the other Ninja-IX exchanges are running, I
haven't heard anything about them, is there the same lack of
communication? Or do those have a local staff?
—
Kate
On Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
How is the IX still running? Surely someone must be paying
colo rent?
On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Always a good time for network operators to consider the
risks of having any one person as a single point of
failure for something kind of important:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor>
Disaster recovery and continuity of business plans should
always include the concept of what if some percentage of
the key team members were to be suddenly unavailable
permanently (the Malaysian airline incident, for example).
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM Kate Gerry
<kge...@outlook.com <mailto:kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kge...@outlook.com>>>
wrote:
Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it
was all Paul's show!
If I was able to (as in, had access to), I would offer
to help/run
with the IX. I may live in California, but it's a
realistic car trip
back and forth to Phoenix.
--
Kate
On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett
<na...@ics-il.net
<mailto:na...@ics-il.net
<mailto:na...@ics-il.net%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:na...@ics-il.net>>>
wrote:
Paul's LinkedIn seems to show that he checked out
in April. Let me
know if you have any success reaching anyone there.
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
<http://www.ics-il.com/ <http://www.ics-il.com/>>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>><https://twitter.com/ICSIL
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>>
Midwest Internet Exchange
<http://www.midwest-ix.com/ <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>><https://twitter.com/mdwestix
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/
<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>>
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*From:*"Kate Gerry" <kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kge...@outlook.com>>>
*To:*"Bill Woodcock" <wo...@pch.net
<mailto:wo...@pch.net
<mailto:wo...@pch.net%20%3cmailto:wo...@pch.net>>>
*Cc:*nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
<mailto:nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
*Sent:*Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM
*Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody
at Phoenix-IX.
Is there anybody still running the IX? Or is it
just on autopilot?
It'd be nice if anybody had some information on
whatever happened
to Paul. Hopefully he is okay!
--
Kate
On Sep 14, 2020, at 13:33, Kate Gerry
<kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:kge...@outlook.com>>>
wrote:
Thank Bill! I've been trying to reach Paul for
ages now,
hopefully he pops back up again. We want to
upgrade.
On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody
has their ticket
system subscribed to the list... Awesome.
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*Subject: **[#WQV-291-95071]: Phoenix-IX
Contact*
*Date: *September 14, 2020 at 12:43:20 PDT
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Kate Gerry,
Thank you for contacting us. This is an
automated response
confirming the receipt of your ticket. Our
team will get
back to you within 24 hours.
--
Kate
On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:48, Bill Woodcock
<wo...@pch.net
<mailto:wo...@pch.net
<mailto:wo...@pch.net%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:wo...@pch.net>>>
wrote:
On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry
<kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com
<mailto:kge...@outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kge...@outlook.com>>>
wrote:
Does anybody have a contact who works
at Phoenix-IX? I
have been attempting to reach somebody
there for a
while now without any luck.
Attempts to each
outtopeer...@phoenix-ix.net
<mailto:topeer...@phoenix-ix.net>
<mailto:peer...@phoenix-ix.net
<mailto:peer...@phoenix-ix.net>>as well as Ninja-IX
have been without any luck. We also
tried reaching out
to Paul Emmons via LinkedIn mail and
never received a
response.
Paul is the correct person.
-Bill
