I have a Bell Canada gig fibre connection.  My first attempt was to bridge 
their all-in-one box (disaster, unreliable as all hell), second was to set a 
bunch of rules for inbound traffic.  Apart from inbound access being *very* 
iffy, their device was s_l_o_w.

So I pulled the fibre GBIC, used a small switch to grab the correct VLAN and 
pointed that at a small Cisco box.  Way more flexible, faster and more reliable 
than Bell’s box.  DSLreports had all the info needed to get the correct VLANs

YMMV

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very interesting. Looks like the intention is to bypass the ONT entirely and 
> use a GPON ONT SFP in ones own choice of small home router. If the ISP wants 
> to do some weird TR069 provisioning or other stuff it could be seen as 
> interfering with the proper management of their network if you remove the CPE 
> entirely.
> 
> In an ideal world, personally I would be totally fine with keeping a telco 
> provided small ONT configured as a dumb L2 bridge, with one optical interface 
> single strand (SC/APC) going to the ISP, and 1000BaseT to my own router.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:51 PM Eric Dugas <edu...@unknowndevice.ca> wrote:
> I don't have any particular insights for Telus, but there is a huge thread 
> about bypassing Bell ONTs on DSLReports: 
> https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32230041-Internet-Bypassing-the-HH3K-up-to-2-5Gbps-using-a-BCM57810S-NIC
> Cheers,
> Eric
> On Oct 13 2020, at 9:38 pm, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With the growth of gigabit class single fiber GPON last mile services, I 
> imagine a number of people reading the list must have subscribed to such by 
> now.
> 
> Something that I have observed, and shared observations with a number of 
> colleagues, is that very often a person who works for ($someAS) lives in a 
> location where you are effectively singlehomed to ($someotherAS). Maybe you 
> bought your house before you got a job with your current employer, or maybe 
> the network you work for doesn't do residential last mile service at all. 
> Perhaps you work remotely for a regional sized entity that's a long distance 
> away from where you live.
> 
> Therefore necessitating a choice of service from whatever facilities based 
> consumer-facing ISP happens to service your home.
> 
> For example, in Seattle, a number of people discovered that they could keep 
> the Centurylink GPON ONT, and remove the centurylink-provided router/modem 
> combo device. Provided that they were able to configure their own router 
> (small vyatta, pfsense box, mikrotik, whatever) to speak a certain VLAN tag 
> on its WAN interface and be a normal PPPoE / DHCP client.
> 
> I'm sure there are a lot of people who prefer to run their own home router 
> and wifi devices, and not rely upon a ($big_residential_isp) provided 
> all-in-one router/nat/wifi box with opaque configuration parameters, or no 
> ability to change configuration at all.
> 
> Any insights as to what the configuration of the Telus AS852 GPON network 
> looks would be helpful. Or other observations in general on 
> technically-oriented persons who are doing similar with other ILECs.

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