I guess I should have been a bit clearer. Yes, what you would be ordering is typically a lit L2 circuit. However, my experience is that certain carrier salespeople tend to call anything like this a 'wave'. I have had lots of discussions over the years with various salespeople about the difference, and yes, it's pretty much always lit L2. Centurylink (now Lumen) even sells a service they call "Encrypted Wavelength Service". Not sure how one encrypts light....
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 1:25 AM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > For small ISPs looking at setting up their first ever presence at an IX > point, you almost certainly would not be ordering an actual 'wave' (eg: a > specific DWDM channel on a legacy 10G DWDM platform, handed off to you with > 1310/LX interfaces at both ends), but lit layer 2 transport service between > the carrier hotel and your service location. > > Pricing for the two types of service can be quite different when you > request an actual 'wave' from a carrier sales person, vs just lit L2 > transport capable of large MTUs, QinQ, etc. > > The ISP carrying it might take it between those two places as simply a > vlan trunked through a larger 100G link, as a MPLS circuit, lots of > possible things. > > Unless you happened to be in a happy conjunction of the right place at the > right time, and an older DWDM system on exactly the same path you wanted > happened to have an empty channel and ready to go interface cards at both > ends. > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 11:12 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> Generally one would order a circuit (aka wave) between your location and >> the IX fabric at the interchange if you're not at the site you're wanting >> to peer at. >> >> For instance, the network I am the network engineer for has a circuit >> which terminates into the Seattle IX (SIX) fabric. We don't have any >> other presence in Seattle (or Washington for that matter) at this point - >> our circuit connects directly to our port on the Exchange. We're >> considering adding a similar link to another exchange point somewhere to >> the east or southeast of us. I haven't looked at the graphs recently, but >> it's not uncommon for >50% of our traffic to come from the exchange. And >> yes, we're peered with Hurricane and others there. >> >> We're also looking at dropping 1U or so of equipment in so we can pick up >> some transit as well, but that's a story for a different day about the joys >> of providing internet in the less populated parts of the country. >> >> In your case, it also looks like there are also some peering options at >> the datacenters you are currently at as well. You may want to do some >> more research to determine how that might work in your situation. >> PeeringDB is a good resource along with google searches for "peering 100 >> Taylor" or "peering austin data foundry" >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:51 PM <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote: >> >>> Don’t you have to be there to join? >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m in Austin and San Antonio >>> >>> >>> >>> -Aaron >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 7:20 PM >>> *To:* Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> >>> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Hurricane Electric AS6939 >>> >>> >>> >>> https://bgp.he.net/AS16527 >>> >>> >>> >>> You don't appear to be on any IXes. Definitely join some IXes before >>> buying another 100G of transit. >>> >>> >>> >>> DFW has a couple and there are some more that are starting up. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> >>> *To: *nanog@nanog.org >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:29:55 PM >>> *Subject: *Hurricane Electric AS6939 >>> >>> Do y’all like HE for Internet uplink? I’m thinking about using them for >>> 100gig in Texas. It would be for my eyeballs ISP. We currently have >>> Spectrum, Telia and Cogent. >>> >>> -Aaron >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> - Forrest >> > -- - Forrest
