Agreed DNS/IP reputation is still about the best.  Then move on with everything 
else we should be doing.

Decrypting the content would bring us to the next problem.  Malware is commonly 
encrypted to prevent AntiVirus from pattern matching or hash matching.

Decrypting the content always struck me as something that is better suited for 
spotting exfiltration.  Searching for known clear text similar to “FBI 
Classified” or a watermark in documents sounded like an attainable goal from 
SSL decryption.

Kevin Burke
802-540-0979
Burlington Telecom
200 Church St, Burlington, VT

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Jared Geiger
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DNS filtering might be an easier option to get most of the bad stuff with 
services like 9.9.9.9 and 1.1.1.2. Paid options like 
dnsfilter.com<http://dnsfilter.com> will give you better control. Cloudflare 
Gateway might also be an option.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:29 PM Christopher J. Wolff 
<cjwo...@nola.gov<mailto:cjwo...@nola.gov>> wrote:
Dear Nanog;

Hope everyone is getting ready for a good weekend.  I’m working on a greenfield 
service provider network and I’m running into a security challenge.  I hope the 
great minds here can help.

Since the majority of traffic is SSL/TLS, encrypted malicious content can pass 
through even an “NGFW” device without detection and classification.

Without setting up SSL encrypt/decrypt through a MITM setup and handing 
certificates out to every client, is there any other software/hardware that can 
perform DPI and/or ssl analysis so I can prevent encrypted malicious content 
from being downloaded to my users?

Have experience with Palo and Firepower but even these need the MITM approach.  
I appreciate any advice anyone can provide.

Best,
CJ

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