without pilots... or a maintenance manager!
Speaking of which, seeing this kind of question, from a VP at a company
in the submarine cable business, would sure make me leery of leasing
fiber from them, if there's an alternative. Now, one would not
necessarily expect a VP of Business Development to know all the details
of network management - but seems to me that he's basically advertising
that he's learned about cable breaks from irate customers, rather than
being forewarned by his operations team that "you're about to get a
bunch of irate calls."
Heck, back in the old days (I was at BBN designing network management
for the original Defense Data Network) - we knew how to instrument our
networks, and design for redundancy & diverse routing. Boy did we have
egg on our face when a backhoe took out all the connectivity to the
Northeast. We detected the outage just fine - but we (and lots of other
folks) were all caught short to discover that AT&T Long Lines routed all
of our "redundant" circuits through the SAME fiber bundle. I expect
there are others here who remember that debacle.
Miles Fidelman
On 6/8/20 2:29 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
It sounds like you don’t have an experienced fiber optic network
engineer on the project yet. There is much more to facilities
monitoring then just checking for disruption. I recommend that you
either retain a consulting engineer or employ one during development.
I’m sure operators here are happy to share their ideas, but you will
need some expertise in fiber infrastructure to make intelligent
decisions about optics, wavelengths, in-band versus out-of-band
administration, and a slew of other topics.
Doing this without experienced engineering help is like starting an
airline without pilots :-)
-mel via cell
On Jun 8, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Rod Beck
<rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
Hi,
My colleague and I may be running a new dark fiber network in the
Northeast.
We need an outsourced NOC to monitor for fiber cuts and serve as a
contact point for customers.
Am I wrong in believing that there should be a way of lighting a
single pair in the cable and then monitoring it for signal
disruption? It is not a perfect solution, but arguably better than
learning that the cable has been damaged from an irate customer.
Best to take any replies off the message board.
Thanks.
Regards,
Roderick.
Roderick Beck
VP of Business Development
United Cable Company
www.unitedcablecompany.com <http://www.unitedcablecompany.com>
New York City & Budapest
rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com
Budapest: 36-70-605-5144
NJ: 908-452-8183
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