" stock value is a terribly inaccurate way to measure if a company is "excelling." "
That requires qualification. Stock value might be a "terribly inaccurate way" in the short term but in the long term, it reflects whether you have a marketable product or not. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:20 PM Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Kind of OT for NANOG, but stock value is a terribly inaccurate way to > measure if a company is "excelling." Wall Street knows nothing of how to > run a company, prioritizing quarterly profit over long-term success. Not > hiring additional staff makes your quarterly numbers look good, but it > isn't good for the long-term attractiveness of your product. A good > business doesn't just target new suckers, they also keep existing customers > happy. Eventually you run out of suckers and all you have is a bunch of > burned bridges in your wake. > > I subscribe to several feature requests in their community that are YEARS > old with little to no response from Ubiquiti. Some of them can't be hard > for Ubiquiti to implement because they're running on the exact same > hardware and underlying OS and some of them you can configure in JSON > files, but they just aren't available in the GUI. They just don't care. > They'd rather push out Flavor Flav cameras or lighting. > > They came out with a new product in a particular family and opened a new > feature request section for it. I commented something similar to, "Start > with feature parity with the existing product, then start working through > the years of feature requests there. Come back when you're done." > > > This doesn't just afflict equipment manufacturers. Network operators are > in the same boat. Both groups have companies profiting hundreds of millions > or billions of dollars every quarter, can't spare a few hundred grand a > year for a couple dev-ops guys to just bang out automation or features. > Yes, I understand you rarely get twice the work from twice the people, but > there are opportunities to make this better. > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > *To: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > *Cc: *"NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:28:52 AM > *Subject: *Re: Contact at Ubiquiti Networks? > > Except, you could argue they are exceling. Stocks are going up up up, > and folks buy the product. > > I really wish stock holders would ask the proper questions in the > quarterly calls. > > On 5/26/20 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > That is a big problem. In terms of their UniFi product line, there are > > no reasonable alternatives. > > > > Upper management is the biggest problem. They have severe ADD. > > > > A ton of companies have these kinds of issues. They just plain don't > > hire enough people in the right areas to really excel. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< > https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< > https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>< > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ben P" <b...@list-subs.com> > > *To: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > > *Cc: *"j k" <jskl...@gmail.com>, "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> > > *Sent: *Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:01:36 AM > > *Subject: *Re: Contact at Ubiquiti Networks? > > > > Agree 1000% with the sentiments expressed by Mike. > > > > Unfortunately despite much research I’ve been unable to find a suitable > > replacement vendor. All the other vendors seem to want to ram > > cloud-management down your throat which I absolutely do not want. My > > network, my control, not under the auspices of someone else’s magic > cloud. > > > > > > > > On 25 May 2020, at 21:21, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net > > <mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > > > The company has mostly fallen apart. Their sales are going up, but > > their responsiveness and customer support have been declining over > > the last five years. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< > https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< > https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>< > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*"j k" <jskl...@gmail.com <mailto:jskl...@gmail.com>> > > *To:*"NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> > > *Sent:*Monday, May 25, 2020 3:16:36 PM > > *Subject:*Contact at Ubiquiti Networks? > > > > Does anyone have a good contact at Ubiquity Networks? Finding a > > pattern I don't like. > > > > Joe Klein > > "inveniet viam, aut faciet"^ --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II, > > Scene 1) > > "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela > > > > > > > > -- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale