Agreed I would do the Adtran Total Access 5000. What you want is the "combo" cards. They combine a SIP FXS gateway and DSL port on one port, aka a Combo port. This would be the way to go, as it doesn't require external splitters to combine a DSL and Voice signal as you are talking about with two separate modules.
If cost is a concern, look at Zhone. They have carrier class gear on the cheap. BTW, some of these chassis can support like 1000's of lines out of 1 box. Could do the whole village on a single rack quite easily. On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 10:09 AM Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: > We’ve been implementing similar DSL systems at large campgrounds for > years. There are a huge number of high-density DSLAM solutions out there, > and DSL CPE cost practically nothing. As you say, $25K is plenty to pay for > the hardware, and a rack is plenty of space. The most time consuming part > is wiring the existing POTS lines into amphenol connectors to plug into the > DSLAM, 25 pairs at a time. > > In addition to Calix\Occam, Adtran‘s TotalAccess solution is worth looking > into for their carrier-class support. > > -mel beckman > > On May 3, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > > If you were to outfit them with three chassis of Calix\Occam B6-252s, > you'd be under $25k for the whole thing and get ADSL2+ speeds. You would > need most of a rack to do it. > > Other platforms may or may not be more cost effective or a better > solution. Just throwing the idea out there. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Nick Edwards" <nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com> > *To: *"Jeremy Austin" <jhaus...@gmail.com> > *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Sunday, May 3, 2020 12:21:17 AM > *Subject: *Re: alternative to voip gateways > > The huts or cabins whatever you want to call them, are right behind > the admin building at entrance, so first is about 300 meters and the > furtherest is just under 1 mile > > Cost will be an issue, Im sure I will have no problems if I have to > install a full rack of gateways and another full of dslams if it costs > 150K, over something 1/5th the size in one rack that will cost 200k - > since the company is not charging them for internet or voice. > > On 5/2/20, Jeremy Austin <jhaus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What’s the average loop length? Grandstream is probably OK to 5+ kfeet > but > > you will lose CID before that. > > > > As the low cost option don’t expect them to be trouble-free (or have > > particularly good vendor support), but they might work in your > application > > if cheap is what makes sense. > > > > My $.02 > > > > Jeremy Austin > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 10:11 PM Andrey Slastenov <a.slaste...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Look at MSAN solution. Like Huawei UA5000 or similar solutions from > other > >> vendors. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Andrey > >> > >> > 2 мая 2020 г., в 07:21, Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com> > >> написал(а): > >> > > >> > I'm looking at a new sister company we just took over, their remote > >> > village has 1700 analogue phone lines to the workers huts, but they go > >> > nowhere past the MDF. > >> > > >> > The office runs voip, now i'm told i have to get phones to the workers > >> > because the <lots of explicit words> AKA previous owners of that > >> > business stopped the build when they ran into financial problems. > >> > > >> > So my plan is to utilize the existing many miles worth of copper > pairs. > >> > > >> > I'm looking at throwing them into Versa Dslams that use pppoe pass > >> > through, throw in a mikoTik 1036 as pppoe server, and we got spare > >> > R710 i can use as radius server, and by my limited knowledge this > >> > works. > >> > > >> > OK data done, but... now all those pots out lines need to go somewhere > >> > that can handle 1700 or more lines, I am looking at either grandstream > >> > 48 port FXS gateways or sangoma vega 50 ports (which Ill use as 48 so > >> > theres a 1:1 match with dslams) the vega 3050 probably wont be used > >> > because they are more than twice the price of grandstream. > >> > > >> > But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not > >> > a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more > >> > cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have > >> > an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch > >> > of individual gateways. > >> > > >> > This project is in my mind workable, but i've not done such a thing on > >> > a large scale. > >> > Those who have experience in this field care to chime in? is my method > >> > acceptable or not for such a project size? > >> > > >> > most pbx's I've done are only few hundred analogue lines where > >> > gateways are more suited and definitely more cost effective, at all > >> > our locations we use freepbx which works perfectly, and we know the > >> > beefyness of the box we'll need to install to handle this load, thats > >> > not a problem if we go down the gateway method. > >> > > >> > thoughts? > >> > > -- > > Jeremy Austin > > jhaus...@gmail.com > > > >
