On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Joe Greco <jgr...@ns.sol.net> wrote: >> On Saturday 11 April 2009 08:31:55 Joe Greco wrote: >> > Speaking of that, a manhole cover is >> > typically protecting some hole, accessway, or vault that's made out of >> > concrete. >> >> An oxyacetylene torch or a plasma cutter will slice through regular steel >> manhole covers in minutes. > > Yes, but we were discussing locked covers, which (given the underlying > assumptions of this discussion) might be a bit heavier. Further, it would > be vaguely suspicious and more noticeable for a "road crew" or "power > company" truck to be deploying such gear, might draw more attention.
Cop: 'What are you fellows doing there with the torch?" Me: "Us? Oh yea.... some dipstick plugged up our lock here with epoxy, our quick solution cause of the outage is to cut the lock/blah off with a torch, bummer, eh? I hate dipsticks..." Cop: "Cool, have a good night!" :( > >> The locking covers I have seen here put the lock(s) on the inside cover cam >> jackscrew (holes through the jackscrew close to the inside cover seal rod >> nut), rather than on the outside cover, thus keeping the padlocks out of the >> weather. > > More expense. :-) and complexity and parts to lose and people to have away during normal outage repairs and ... :( fail. >> Requires a certain atmosphere of distrust, unfortunately. And slows repairs >> way down, especially if the 833's key is lost.... > > > Certainly it is *possible* to do it, but given the other variables, does > it make *sense*? > > Consider what I was saying about just going to town with a backhoe. You > have a lot to protect. and I also would ask.. what's the cost/risk here? 'We' lost at best ~1day for some folks in the outage, nothing global and nothing earth-shattering... This has happened (this sort of thing) 1 time in how many years? Expending $$ and time and people to go 'put padlocks on manhole covers' seems like spending in the wrong place... (yes, I agree also that simply dropping into a manhole with an axe/hacksaw is pretty simple to do, it's also just about impossible to realisitcally protect against) -Chris
