The answer is “it depends”.  What are you trying to accomplish?  Are you trying 
to detect and surgically mitigate every DDoS attack?  If so, you will need a 
good DDoS attack detection and mitigation solution and a team of people to run 
it or a 3rd party company that can do this for you.  Do you want a cheap 
solution?  There are open source projects that can detect DDoS attacks and 
generate RTBHs, flowspec rules, and inline filters that can block the traffic 
(eg. https://fastnetmon.com).  Also, RTBHs can usually be advertised upstream 
(and to UTRS https://www.team-cymru.com/utrs.html) to reduce the amount of 
attack traffic that the victim network receives.  Some ISPs just do the RTBH to 
the customer’s IP when there’s a DDoS and then force the customer to get 
another IP via DHCP, etc.

-Rich

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Reply-To: Shawn L <sha...@up.net>
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 3:39 PM
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Best way to get foreign ISPs to shut down DDoS reflectors?


This brings up an interesting question -- what is "good DDoS protection" on an 
ISP scale?  Apart from having enough bandwidth to weather the attack and having 
upstream providers attempt to filter it for you/




-----Original Message-----
From: "Bottiger" <bottige...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:30pm
To: "Siyuan Miao" <avel...@misaka.io>
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Best way to get foreign ISPs to shut down DDoS reflectors?
We are unable to upgrade our bandwidth in those areas. There are no providers 
within our budget there at the moment. Surely there must be some way to get 
them to respond.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:23 PM Siyuan Miao 
<avel...@misaka.io<mailto:avel...@misaka.io>> wrote:
It won't work.
Get a good DDoS protection and forget about it.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 5:17 AM Bottiger 
<bottige...@gmail.com<mailto:bottige...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is there a guide on how to get foreign ISPs to shut down reflectors used in 
DDoS attacks?
I've tried sending emails listed under abuse contacts for their regional 
registries. Either there is none listed, the email is full, email does not 
exist, or they do not reply. Same results when sending to whatever other email 
they have listed.
Example Networks:
CLARO S.A.
Telefonica
China Telecom
Korea Telecom
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