On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 9:25 PM Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io> wrote: > > What is an "ebony phone"? (Google results for that phrase are mostly porn.)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950S-WESTERN-ELECTRIC-EBONY-BLACK-ROTARY-DIAL-DESK-TELEPHONE-/333465026527 I agree, that's a form of porn. #rule34 -chris > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 12:55 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:10 AM Bryan Holloway <br...@shout.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 3/7/20 8:03 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. Murrell <br...@interlinx.bc.ca> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> So, if my telco can bill the callers for those premium calls, they >> > >> surely know who they are, or at least know where they are sending the >> > >> bill and getting payment from. >> > > >> > > You are mistaken, billing is very hard. >> > > Telcos show this regularly. >> > > >> > >> > On the contrary: billing is easy. Getting it right is hard. >> >> You are technically correct, the best kind of correct. >> >> Seriously though, a bunch of the conversation about shaken/stir and >> various problems with spam callers reveals: >> "telcos don't care (for any reason you can imagine)" >> "gov't mandates aren't really going to help" >> "people care as recipients of these calls, but really there are >> options for them as well to not get the calls (or not answer them)" >> >> I like that Mr Thomas's answer: "Why can't we just cryptpgraphically >> sign the caller's ANI and use that as a method to ID real callers we >> care about?" >> since that was my suggestion to the stir folk in their very first >> meeting... "what about ebony phones!" said the lawyer from >> telco-ville.