"you are not going to be able to peer 85% of the traffic" 

It depends. If you are an eyeball ISP and you join one of the major IXes, 
you'll be near 85%. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 10:08:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Dual Homed BGP 







On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 12:45 PM Mark Tinka < mark.ti...@seacom.mu > wrote: 




On 25/Jan/20 02:49, Baldur Norddahl wrote: 

> 
> 
> 
> The solution is to stay clear of tier 1 networks. Find a good local 
> tier 3. Whatever you are going to do, they will do better. 

So all our transit comes from the top 7 "global" carriers. Yes, 
including Cogent :-). 

But that only accounts for about 15% of our overall traffic. The rest 
comes from peering. 

Mark. 






>From the perspective of someone just starting out being dual homed, this will 
>be very different. You are not going to get 7 transits and you are not going 
>to be able to peer 85% of the traffic. That is why I advocate that it is 
>better to buy transit from a middle tier company. Instead of getting a 
>connection to just one so called global carrier, you get a package deal with 
>connection to all of them and 85% peering one step removed. Plus many of the 
>companies that the middle tier has a peering with, is something the tier 1 
>companies would refuse to peer (exception Hurricane Electric). 


Also while your company may not need dual connections to each transit, the 
situation is completely different from the perspective of a small dual homed 
customer of yours. That is a lot of paths that are lost if this customer where 
to experience a disruption to the connection to your network. 


This is especially true if there is an unbalance between the two chosen transit 
providers. Say the other provider is Cogent, which are famous for refusing to 
peer. That means that all those peers, unless they have a Cogent contract, they 
will need to find an indirect path to replace your peering. 


Of course I may also recommend to simply set your expectations modestly. Dual 
homing will get you redundancy but unless you line up all your ducks correctly, 
you should expect some brownouts in the case of a link failure. Simply tell the 
boss, that unless he wants to pay at least double in every way, there will be 
expected downtime in the order of 5 minuttes in the case of a link failure. 


Regards, 


Baldur 



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