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storage sooner rather than later. Solar is just exploding. Your car will "house 
tie".6G will solve your data problem. D-- Don Gould5 Cargill 
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-------- Original message --------From: Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> Date: 
26/12/19  2:33 PM  (GMT+12:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: power to the 
internet 
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/25/california-power-shutoffs-089678This 
article details some of the issues with California's "new reality" of planned 
blackouts. One of the big things that came to light with these blackouts is 
that our network infrastructure's resilience is pretty lacking. While I was 
(surprisingly to me) ok with my DSL connection out in the boonies, lots and 
lots of people with cable weren't so lucky. And I'm not sure how bad the 
situation is with cellular infrastructure, but I assume it's not much better 
than cable. And I wouldn't doubt that other DSL deployments go dark when power 
is down. I have no clue with fiber.So I guess what I'm wondering is what can we 
do about this? What should we do about this? These days IP access is not just 
convenience, it's the way we go about our lives, just like electricity itself. 
At base, it seems to me that network operators should be required to keep the 
lights on in blackouts just like POTS operators do now. If I have power to 
light my modem or charge in my phone, I should be able to get onto the net. 
That seems like table stakes.One of the things we learned also is that the 
blackouts seem to last between 2-3 days apiece. I happen to have a generator 
since I'm out in the boonies and our power gets cut regularly because of snow, 
but not everyone has that luxury. I kind of want to think that my router+modem 
use about 20 watts, so powering it up would take about 1.5kwh for 3 days. a 
quick google look shows that I'd probably need to shell out $500 or so for a 
battery of that capacity, and that's doesn't include your phones, laptops, 
tv's, etc power needs. What does that mean? That is a major expense for a lot 
of people.On the bright side, I hear that power generator companies stocks have 
gone through the roof.On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more 
states and countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh.Mike

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