outages@ is that list I think? I do think the overall conversation about nation states disabling internet (which is not likely the case with Sean's original post?) is nanog-worthy.
On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 7:41 PM Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io> wrote: > > I'm interested in these events. It might be worth making a separate list for > them? > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 6:24 PM Scott Weeks <sur...@mauigateway.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> --- s...@donelan.com wrote: >> From: Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> >> >> I hadn't seen messages about this Internet outage affecting multiple >> countries (Eastern Europe, Turkey and Iran) from Thursday. >> >> Multiple fiber cuts affecting major parts of sub-continents don't happen >> as much any more. Yes, I still remember the day of FIVE (5) simultaneous, >> trans-continental fiber cuts in the USA. I was busy :-) >> >> I don't know if Internet route diversity has improved... or people aren't >> sending me messages about them anymore. >> --------------------------------- >> >> I have become quite interested in this lately. I don't send them >> to the list as no one seemed interested when I sent them before. >> For example, India as been turning off the internet like they turn >> the lights: >> >> https://internetshutdowns.in/ >> >> >> Kashmir has been without internet for over 100 days: >> >> https://guardian.ng/news/world/restive-kashmir-marks-100-days-since-india-stripped-autonomy/ >> >> Just think how you'd do anything without internet for 100+ days! >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> Usually after a country as 3 or 4 major egress points, large-scale >> unintentional internet outages are relatively rare. Countries with only >> 1 or 2 egress points still have lots of problems. >> ------------------------------------ >> >> I'm not so sure 3-4 is a large enough number. Many countries are >> copying China in information repression (among other things) which >> includes building in the ability to turn off internet access >> (internationally as well as intranationally) as their network is >> built out. Funny that one thing something as large as a country >> is afraid of is normal folks talking to each other freely. They >> really don't like the end-to-end principle. :) >> >> scott >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50851420 >> >> Severed fibre optic cables disrupted internet access in parts of eastern >> Europe, Iran and Turkey on Thursday. >> >> The issue, which lasted for about two hours, was caused by multiple fibre >> cables being physically cut at the same time, a highly unusual thing to >> happen. >> [...] >> >>
