There are laws against many of these SPAM calls today.  I suppose the agencies 
that are responsible for prosecuting these could answer some of their SPAM 
calls to see who was calling.  Same thing with SPAM faxes, we didn't get a 
technical fix, just used the law against anyone who tried.  Fax SPAM isn't 
fixed but its not being abused.

Technical fixes might will no doubt be part of the problem.  But enforcement 
will also address this.  

But yes I see everyone's lack of apathy for this problem as only accelerating 
the death of the PSTN.

Kevin Burke
802-540-0979
Burlington Telecom
200 Church St, Burlington, VT

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On top of that, there's also the issue of many telcos deciding that, no, you 
can't just shove whatever you want on the wire, it needs to be a DID and name 
registered on your trunk... unless you pay us an extra fee per month and say 
you'll be good, then you can spoof to your heart's content.

As far as actual enforcement of all this goes, this morning spam and robocall 
blocking legislation came into force in Canada. Coincidentally, this morning so 
far I've received six robocalls from the same "your social insurance number has 
been hacked and you are breaking the law by not paying us to fix it" scam, two 
of which were before the sun came up. Prior to today I usually got one a day on 
average.

At least one of the big three carriers has said they're going to be rolling out 
network-side call blocking "in the coming weeks" but I'm expecting my cell to 
continue to be a source of annoyance for the foreseeable future.

--
Troy Martin | tmar...@charter.ca

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Keith Medcalf
> Sent: December 19, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: Brandon Martin <lists.na...@monmotha.net>; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls
>
>
> "CallerID" is a misnomer.  It is actually the "Advertized ID".  
> However, the telco's realized you would not pay to receive advertizing 
> so they renamed it to something they thought you would pay for.
>
> Pretty canny business model eh?  And apparently y'all fell for it, 
> thinking it was related to the Identification of the Caller, rather 
> than being what the caller wished to advertize.
>
> --
> The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven 
> says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

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