> > I would imagine that the internet is a whole less resilient today in 2019 > than it was back in the day before the cloud takeover.
It's far *more* resilient now than it has ever been. More sub-sea cables. Multiple routes across continents. The very fact that there are AWS/Azure/Google Cloud data centers located around the globe makes anything hosted there even more resilient, not less (and for the most part, I still prefer on prem DC so I'm not even pushing "To the cloud!"). - Mike Bolitho On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:16 PM Constantine A. Murenin <muren...@gmail.com> wrote: > Unpopular opinion: other countries should do the same. > > If somehow all the transatlantic (and/or transpacific) cables are offline; > will the whole internet outside of the US stop working, too? > > AWS and all the other providers have DCs all over the world, but would > they still work if they can't contact the mothership, and for how long? > (Has any of this ever been tested?) > > I would imagine that the internet is a whole less resilient today in 2019 > than it was back in the day before the cloud takeover. You often can't > even install OSS without an internet connection anymore. Would Golang stop > working? What else? > > Would you and/or your corporation be able to access your own email? All > these things may seem silly, until you actually encounter the situation > where you're offline, and it's too late to do anything. > > C. > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 18:04, Scott Weeks <sur...@mauigateway.com> wrote: > >> >> >> --- sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: >> From: "Scott Weeks" <sur...@mauigateway.com> >> >> Anyone got any technical info on how Russia plans to execute >> a disconnection test of the internet? >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> Got crickets, so now I have to respond to my own post on >> what I just found out about it. Is that like talking to >> yourself? :) >> >> >> https://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/775366588/russian-law-takes-effect-that-gives-government-sweeping-power-over-internet >> >> "The "sovereign Internet law," as the government calls it, >> greatly enhances the Kremlin's control over the Web. It was >> passed earlier this year and allows Russia's government to >> cut off the Internet completely or from traffic outside >> Russia "in an emergency," as the BBC reported. But some of >> the applications could be more subtle, like the ability to >> block a single post." >> >> "The equipment would conduct what's known as "deep packet >> inspection," an advanced way to filter network traffic. >> >> "Regardless of what the government intends, some experts >> think it would be technically difficult for Russia to >> actually close its network if it wanted to, because of the >> sheer number of its international connections." >> >> "What I found was that there were hundreds of existing >> Internet exchange points in Russia, some of which have >> hundreds of participants...Many of them are international >> network providers, he says, so "basically it's challenging >> — if not impossible, I think — to completely isolate the >> Russian Internet." >> >> Belson says that the requirement for Internet service >> providers to install tracking software will very likely >> also be challenging in practice. He adds that it will be >> difficult to get hundreds of providers to deploy it and >> hard to coordinate that they're all filtering the same >> content. >> >> scott >> >> >> >> >> >