Both the cable and PTT have wiring in the buildings, but I suspect it is all 
CAT5 or the European equivalent in each apartment. Most of these flats have not 
been renovated in 30 to 50 years and that is usually when the flat is renovated 
that wiring would get upgraded. The cable company will often insist on rewiring 
the flat's own wiring if it has never provided service before.

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From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck 
<rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:55 PM
To: Phil Lavin <phil.la...@cloudcall.com>; Nanog@nanog.org <Nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: VDSL

The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building. However, the cable company just 
upgraded its network and is now offering up to 500. I assume the cable company 
is using coax and may be that gives them an edge when combined with VDSL to get 
up to 500 megs.

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From: Phil Lavin <phil.la...@cloudcall.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:48 PM
To: Rod Beck <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>; Nanog@nanog.org 
<Nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: RE: VDSL

> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide 
> services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL 
> is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998.

> Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side?

DSL on the whole seems pretty unpopular in the USA. VDSL itself is a fairly old 
standard but it's been enhanced over the years to provide bandwidths up to 
300mbit on a single twisted copper pair, albeit over relatively short distances.

DSL (these days, specifically VDSL2) is extremely popular and widely used 
within the UK because almost every home has a single twisted pair going into it 
for a POTS phone line. It made sense to run services over this than to re-cable 
25 million homes. A (very) slow FTTH rollout is under way but what seems to be 
getting more traction is a rollout of G.Fast which currently boasts speeds of 
up to 500mbit over short distances (< 100m), still on a single twisted copper 
pair. This may be what you're getting as VDSL2 won't push to 500mbit over any 
sensible distance.

I can only speculate on why they decided to use DSL in your building - if it 
has legacy POTS infrastructure to each apartment, it would make some sense. If 
not, who knows...

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