On Thursday, 11 July, 2019 12:38, Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io> wrote:
>What if you use different carriers for termination and origination? >How does your termination carrier validate that your origination >carrier has allocated certain numbers to you and that you're >therefore allowed to make outbound calls with a caller ID set to >those numbers? That doesn't sound to me like something that can be >solved as quickly and easily as you imply. It does not really matter. What matters is that they bear responsibility for an act in furtherance of a conspiracy to commit fraud. -- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > >On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 2:33 PM Keith Medcalf <kmedc...@dessus.com> >wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 11 July, 2019 11:18, Christopher Morrow ><morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:00 PM Paul Timmins ><p...@telcodata.us> wrote: > > >> Chris it would be trivial for this to be fixed, nearly >overnight, > >> by creating some liability on the part of carriers for >illicit use of > >> caller ID data on behalf of their customers. > > >'illicit use of caller id' - how is caller-id being illicitly >used > >though? > >I don't think it's against the law to say a different >'callerid' in > >the call session, practically every actual call center does >this, right? > > The problem is that CallerID is not really the CallerID. It is >some fraudulent shit created by the caller. This is not how >"CallerID" was originally sold. It was sold as being the ID of the >Caller. If it is not the ID of the Caller then Fraud is being >committed and the bastards should be castrated (or worse), and the >CEO and Directors of the carrier responsible for fraud getting >through to the end-user should face the same penalty. > > See then how quickly this gets fixed. You will fall off your >chair and it will be a "solved problem" before your arse hits the >ground! > > -- > The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to >Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > > > > >