On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:45:51 +0100 Eliot Lear <l...@cisco.com> wrote:
> On 2/8/09 5:32 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > Lastly, you've assumed that only a "smart phone" (not that the term > > is well defined) needs an IP address. I believe this is wrong. > > There are plenty of simpler phones (e.g. not a PDA, touch screen, > > read your e-mail thing) that can use cellular data to WEP browse, > > or to fetch things like ring tones. They use an IP on the network. > > > > The term is ill defined, but the general connotation is that they > will be supplanting dumb phones. So say what you will,phones with IP > addresses is likely to increase as a percentage of the installed > base. The only thing offsetting that is the indication that the U.S. > is saturating on total # of cell phones, which is what that article > says. > Of course, my iPhone is currently showing an IP address in 10/8, and though my EVDO card shows a global address in 70.198/16, I can't ssh to it -- a TCP traceroute appears to be blocked at the border of Verizon Wireless' network. But hey, at least I can ping it. (Confirmed by tcpdump on my laptop: the pings are not being spoofed by a border router.) --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb