I am told that juniper have just released their E series code to do
hitless failover and ipv6cp at the same time.
If you are not running hitless it has been working for some time.
Apologies if this message is brief, it is sent from my cellphone.
On 5/02/2009, at 17:29, Matthew Moyle-Croft <m...@internode.com.au>
wrote:
Hi James,
I don't think anyone really has done it large scale properly.
I've had basically nothing from anyone.
Given my knowledge of where most large BRAS/Cable vendors are upto -
I don't think anyone could have. (Cisco won't have high end v6
pppoe support until late this year!).
There's a lot of people who clearly don't work for ISPs yammering on
about the Zen of v6, but no one with real experience.
Scary huh? I'm meant to have 250,000 customers running it by
Christmas!
MMC
On 05/02/2009, at 2:44 PM, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
Hello Matthew , See way below ...
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
Scott Howard wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net
>wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <m...@internode.com.au
>wrote:
but my point was that people are starting to assume that v6 WILL
mean
static allocations for all customers.
By design IPv6 should mean _less_ static allocations than IPv4 -
in the
event that a client disconnects/reconnects and gets a new /64
then their
network *should* automatically handle that fact, with all clients
automagically renumbering themselves to the new /64, updating
DNS, etc.
Local communications won't be impacted as they should be using the
link-local address.
_should_
As I asked before - I'm really keen to actually do this stuff -
but all I get is people who haven't done it telling me theory and
not how it works in practise in a real ISP of some scale. Telling
customers "well, you might get renumbered randomly" isn't going to
work, no matter what the theory about it all is. They do crazy
and unexpected things and bleat about it even if you told them not
to. At worse they stop paying you and leave!
My hope is that PD will be used for the majority and statics will
be small in number. My FEAR is that customers have already been
conditioned that v6 will mean statics for everyone because v6 has
so many! (This has already been the assumption many have made from
the customer side).
The bit that isn't clear at the moment is if (and how well) that
will
actually work in practice. And that brings us back to the good
old catch-22
of ISPs not supporting IPv6 because consumer CPE doesn't support
it, and CPE
not supporting it because ISP don't...
Tell me about it. As I asked before - has ANYONE done this
before? ie. fully dualstacked to customers? Or is it still
theory?
Has Anyone responded to you on/off list with even a close
approximation of showing they have accomplished what you've
requested ?
I am beginning to be worried that no one [has|is willing to
divulge] that they have accomplished this . One would think that
someone would at least pipe up just for the bragging factor .
Twyl , JimL
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