Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Joe Abley wrote: >> >>> On 2008-12-12, at 15:02, Martin List-Petersen wrote: >>> >>>> It's a misconception of some muppets, especially in IT related >>>> products, that forget, that a lot or IT professionals do travel all >>>> over the world and usually have a credit card in their home country. >>>> Pure and utter nonsense. >>> >>> Or perhaps the hassle of dealing with stolen US credit card numbers >>> from clients outside the US costs far more money than you could hope >>> to make back with the purchases of US nationals travelling overseas? >>> >>> Could well be muppets, but surely there are other possibilities. >> >> Sad but true, we have had to turn off signups outside the US because >> of that very problem. Yes, I am sure we lose some sales, but in >> general it is not worth the fraud costs. > > Why don't the fraudsters just use Open US Proxies? >
You can be sure, that the people wanting to defraud merchants know all these tricks and use them. The verified by visa password option is a far better solution, but I've not seen many US merchants supporting that yet. Instead they're relying on outdated geoip data or ask people to fax a copy of their credit card. /Martin -- Airwire - Ag Nascadh Pobal an Iarthar http://www.airwire.ie Phone: 091-865 968