On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Adrian Chadd wrote:
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008, William Waites wrote:
As mentioned in private email, I think where there is *evidence* of
*criminal* activity, show this to a judge, get the judge to order ARIN
to revoke the ASN/netblock, the traffic then becomes bogon and can/
should be filtered.
Proving criminal activity is for law enforcement. Maintaining our networks
against DDoS and our customers against being massively compromised, now
that's something else.
If a layer had become _that_bad_ I don't want them communicating with me,
and if I am their peer, I don't want to peer with them. It's an individual
choice by each provider, and we can lok at them in any light we like.
Oh come on, how quickly would that migrate to enforcing copyright
Copyright is a legal issue which does not trouble our networks, so
if you get a legal paper asking you to do so, it's a whole other
business. Don't muddy the water.
The issue is complicated enough as it is: do we want such dirty providers
to massively compromise the Internet, our customers, or through us?
Different answers from different people.
If law enforcement was capable of doing the job, we wouldn't have had to
discuss this.
infringement? Or if you're especially evil, used by larger companies
to bully smaller companies out of precious IPv4 space?
I reckon having your IPv4 space revoked for more than a few hours would
upset most if not all small players.
Please find an alternative method of tidying up the trash and don't
stir that nest of hornets.
Adrian
