-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Jan 11, 2008 1:17 AM, Rob Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'll second this point. We've had great luck working with providers >> globally, but only after folks (such as Sean) took us under their >> wing and mentored us on the processes and setups that best help >> ISPs. That alone would make a great *NOG presentation. > >Setups that best help *ISPs*? The fun part is that there's this >fundamental disconnect even within ISPs .. their CERT guys or security >guys go talk to each other, their abuse desks go talk to each other, >their packet pushers go talk to each other .. at >nspsec/gadicon/whatever, at MAAWG, at *NOG .. > >There's little or no cross pollination between these groups, if at >all. It is this kind of gap that needs to be bridged, just as much >as the gaps between ISPs and LE, ISPs and the anti phishing community >(banks etc, + the takedown vendor crowd), ISPs and the security >community etc etc needs bridging. Thanks, Suresh. I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to some of the frustrations being experienced in this area. - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.3 (Build 3017) wj8DBQFHhtJ/q1pz9mNUZTMRAlChAJ9fDiHIMse7DZ5qovd8HuDdST1bFACgiVxG tSx+KeSbzqoAOueRzX4JCNQ= =QvO0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/