Brad Templeton wrote:
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 10:49:01AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:And, when you consider that most of today's movies distributed illegally across P2P networks actually came from industry insiders (i.e. reviewers, people hooking digital capture devices into the movie theater projection equipment, marketing staff, people working at the studios and pressing houses, etc.), the broadcast flag scheme is probably useless. Note that the insider claim is obviously true of *all* movies available before the movie is released in theaters, but many sources seem to indicate that it is often true of movies released much later, also. (See references below.)
On 5/18/05, Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:So help me. Are you saying the technical people really felt that
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...and this system doesn't stop that! So why?All I can say is many people who wrote the spec disagree with you but
I support your rights to go understand their point of view better.
the DRM would keep the tv shows off the P2P networks? I have to
believe they understood that a single cracked copy can spread like
wildfire, so that a day after the single crack, it's no different from
1,000 people having cracked copies to put up.
The only way the broadcast flag regulations could protect from insider copying is if the HD/Blu-Ray DVD's and "movie reels" (however they're done in today's semi-digital movie theaters) distributed to these insiders--and even the originals at the production houses and copies used to create the masters at the pressing houses--include broadcast flag protection. Distributing everything with broadcast flag protection--such that the broadcast flag prevented insider copying--would mean that--focusing only on theaters--every movie house would have to upgrade all its equipment to support the broadcast flag. It would also mean that studios would have to refuse to distribute movies to theaters that don't have broadcast-flag enabled equipment. I just don't see that happening. In very few cases (i.e. Star Wars/THX) have studios refused to distribute movies to certain theaters. If done on a grand scale, it may actually cause more lost profits on the studio's theater take than "retrieved" income from would-be pirates.
Note that the insider copying may also apply to future TV shows. However, since this year was the first season in a loooooong time to have a large number of highly-popular shows, I doubt the TV insiders have--up to this point--had much interest in making them available. Also, since NTSC video is of such low-quality, much of the reason for groups making content available via illegal online distribution--to impress others with the "quality" of the rip (timeliness, size, video/audio quality, etc.)--hasn't really been applicable. As HDTV becomes more prevalent, this will probably change. (I can't say for sure because I haven't seen any references to corroborate my theory, but I would guess that the release of television episodes on DVD's has contributed to an increase in the amount of TV coming from insider sources--similar to the fact that a large percentage of movies available on these networks are not ripped from DVD's purchased by the rippers.)
Therefore, once again, we have far-reaching legislation that focuses on the 20% (or, according to AT&T, the 23%) while ignoring the 80% (77%)...
Mike
"Analysis of Security Vulnerabilities in the Movie Production and Distribution Process;" Byers, Simon, Lorrie Cranor, Dave Kormann, Patrick McDaniel, and Eric Cronin; AT&T/University of Pennsylvania; Sep 13, 2003; http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html
"Covert online groups behind bulk of bootlegged movies, music, software;" Veiga, Alex; detnews.com/AP; Jan 3, 2005; http://www.detnews.com/2005/technology/0501/03/technology-47807.htm
"Film Piracy Still Steals the Show;" Dean, Katie; Wired News; Dec 22, 2003; http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61673,00.html
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