Although it was nice to hear a few versions ago that they were thinking about adding this, I did not think it was absolutely necessary. There are many other ways to handle embedded queries. You can also offload some of the server side work by doing so. Depends on how you use it I suppose.
As far as 'complaining' goes.... Unproductive. Extremely. Asking for a feature, sure. Submitting a bug report, sure. But 'complaining' about a feature is not only unproductive as an open source user, it's flat out wrong. The ole saying 'Givem an inch, they want a mile' comes into play. MySQL does have a development plan. Maybe not the same as everyone would like, but I'm sure that they will likely stick to that plan. Anyhow.. Much longer than I intended, but these guys do work. Let them do it. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: Seriously.. When are we going to get subqueries?! Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip] > On Wednesday 08 June 2005 11:16 am, you wrote: > >>[snip] >>Thats funny.. looks like it will be added to 5.1.. Dunno why they > > think > >>fixing >>it is adding a feature.. >>[/snip] >> >>The best open-source database on the market today? Free >>Constant improvements to database? Free >> >>Ability to complain when we don't get what we want? Priceless > > > First, > > *I* wasnt requesting anything.. So you need to reply to the person who > was > complaining in the first place. I just thought it was funny.. Them > fixing has > no care in the world in my mind since I never use subqueries.. > > So take your comments elsewhere..Or direct them to the right person.. > [/snip] > > > Easy there boss, I was just responding to the thread and meant no > offense. I saw the whole thing as funny. > I personally find the idea that just because a product is free that people are not allowed to, or should not complain when they find shortcomings in that product, to be more than a bit short sighted. It is still VERY arguable as to wether Mysql is or is not the best open source DB on the market today. I am sure the Postgresql people would not agree, and they could likely make a very compelling argument. If Mysql wants to have the best product, then they NEED people to use their product, and to complain when something is not correct. And, they need to listen to those complaints from their users. For most any large open source project, there is more of a need for users and testers than there is for developers. Those people who use the free version of Mysql are arguably testers (those w/ support contracts are customers, and are arguably even more entitled to complain). Granted, Kevin's tone was a bit harsh, but his sentiments should be encouraged (frustration w/ a lack of feature). The concept that people should be happy with what they get for a free product only serves to keep the quality of free products below what they could be. The performance of sub-queries in mysql when used in an IN() clause is embarassingly slow. They are in most cases, unusable because they do not use indexes correctly. This is a legitimate complaint, and one that I personally hope Mysql looks into and repairs. I echo Kevin's thoughts and I rarely even have a use for sub-queries (given I got used to them not being available). Greg -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
