On 19.06.15 17:11, David Champion wrote:
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> Greetings all, Not sure if this may be a
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> debian problem but----
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom>
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> I often save individual incomming emails
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> in seperate files in my home directory
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> with the mutt "s" command.
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom>
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> In any session, the first time I save to
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> a particular file it goes fine.
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom>
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> However if I try to save another message
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> to the same file, I get "Permission
> Ian> Erik> Mattias> Chris> Tom> denied."
> Ian>
> Ian> Erik> Chris> I never wrote any of the above!
> Ian>
> Ian> Erik> And the quoting does show that. Compare the inner "Chris
> Ian> Erik> Bannister" quote with the outer: In the outer, the leftmost
> Ian> Erik> '>' ladder links your name with the last quoted sentence. In
> Ian> Erik> your inner, the third '>' ladder links your name with nothing
> Ian> Erik> at all, i.e. no attribution to you. The whole of the central
> Ian> Erik> block of quoted text is solidly attributed to Tom Fowle by an
> Ian> Erik> unbroken fourth '>' ladder, is it not?
> Ian>
> Ian> Now compare this correct, but horribly complex analysis (can a
> Ian> human really do that habitually?) with the SuperCite "nonstandard"
> Ian> [1] quoting I use. Which is easier to read, honestly? If it is
> Ian> a matter of colorizing in the mutt pager, a simple setting of
> Ian> quote_regexp in .muttrc fixes that. (This should count as ob-mutt
> Ian> content.)
>
> Are we really going to do this?
ISTM that you're painting it more complex than the reality. It is easier
than the above with the original simpler presentation, where each
attribution begins at the top of its own '>' column. There is then no
more effort than following a straight vertical line directly to the
author. One squint - gotcha! I'm sorry, but I fail to see how that can
be made out to be difficult. (If the font were tall, and '>' substituted
with '|', then David's text above would be joined to his attribution by a
solid line, not just a line of '>', but the simplicity is the same. If
he hadn't munged the others, then they would be similarly simple
vertical lines to follow with a glance.)
I do it when reading an email. I do it and double check when trimming
quoted text, to ensure that the attribution line for each quoting column
not trimmed is still present. It is not an effort that is in any way
irksome.
What I like very much is that Vim perfectly maintains such quoting when
reflowing quoted paragraphs, e.g with gq} - something I do when trimming
from or to the middle of a line, or when the lines are too long.
(Granted, fullquoters can make the '>' columns overly long, but that's
the fault of failing to trim quoted text to that relevant to the reply.)
Erik
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Habit is habit, and not to be flung out of the window by any man, but
coaxed down-stairs a step at a time.
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