* On 15 dic 2014, M. Fioretti wrote:

> On 2014-11-16 00:20, David Champion wrote:
> >* On 15 Nov 2014, M. Fioretti wrote:
> >>Greetings,
> >>
> >>almost one year ago, I had a problem with mutt, so I asked for help
> >>here, describing it in detail, see (1) below. It received one answer
> >>....
> >
> >For debugging, don't set smtp_pass at first.
> 
> before I "forget" about this for another year...
> 
> first of all, thanks to David and the others who answered, both this
> and the first time.
> 
[...]
> 
> So, when I'll have the opportunity to visit again, I will surely
> repeat the procedures as David suggested, checking what happens without
> the password is the most viable option. For now, everything stays
> on hold.
> 

On one of your previous emails, you are using 'out.alice.it' as SMTP
server. So I will assume that your friend's ISP is Telecom Italia,
whose parameters can be found at:

http://assistenzatecnica.telecomitalia.it/at/portals/assistenzatecnica.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=ProblemiBook&nodeId=/AT_REPOSITORY/348010&radice=consumer_root

http://assistenzatecnica.telecomitalia.it/at/portals/assistenzatecnica.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=GuideBook&radice=consumer_root&nodeId=/AT_REPOSITORY/22041

SMTP:     out.alice.it:587
username: yourfri...@alice.it
password: xxxx


>From my machine, I try connection to out.alice.it:

        $ nc out.alice.it 587
        220 smtp201.alice.it ESMTP Service ready
        help
        214-Valid SMTP commands:
        214-  HELO, EHLO, NOOP, RSET, QUIT, STARTTLS
        214-  MAIL, RCPT, DATA, VRFY, EXPN, HELP, ETRN
        214-For more info, use HELP <valid SMTP command>
        214 end of help

Similar answer from port 25.
No response from 465 port.

Let's try with openssl:
$ openssl s_client -connect out.alice.it:587
CONNECTED(00000003)
2074:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown 
protocol:s23_clnt.c:618:

Second try:
$ openssl s_client -connect out.alice.it:587 -starttls smtp
CONNECTED(00000003)
didn't found starttls in server response, try anyway...
2077:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown 
protocol:s23_clnt.c:618:

Strange (same command with "smtp.gmail.com:587" is successfull).

Third try:
$ openssl s_client -connect out.alice.it:587 -starttls smtp -debug
[...output reformated to be clearer] 
250-smtp202.alice.it
250-DSN
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250-HELP
250-AUTH=LOGIN
250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 PLAIN
[...]
STARTTLS
500 STAR command unrecognized


Problem with STARTTLS?? Anyone can check it?



Conclusion: try this sintax:
        smtp://yourfri...@alice.it@out.alice.it:587
or
        smtp://yourfri...@alice.it@out.alice.it:25


--
Javi

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