On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:56:04AM +0000, John Long wrote:
> > > If I understood you then yes, but the local machine as far as mutt is
> > > concerned is the machine where mutt is running [your remote system], not
> > > where you are running [your ssh session from, your local system]. All
> > > mutt's working data is where mutt runs, as in all normal apps. 
> > > 
> > Exactly.  I'm sitting using my laptop in France (for example) and I
> > run mutt on the laptop using IMAP to access the E-Mails on my mail
> > server machine at home.
> 
> Are you saying you can host a mail server but you can't understand the
> difference between running Mutt on a local or remote system? That's
> difficult to fathom. 
> 
> > So, when I use 'v' to view an HTML E-Mail it stores the file in /tmp on
> > the laptop and points my laptop browser at it to view it?
> 
> Check and see?

That's not so easy!  I don't currently have an IMAP server for mutt to
connect to, hence....
> 
> > This was really my original question!  :-) 
> 
> If so then you had no question at all. It's obvious Mutt will save the file
> on the system where mutt is running. It cannot work any other way and this
> has absolutely nothing to do with IMAP or POP.
> 
It could perfectly well use IMAP and save the file somewhere in the
IMAP hierarchy on the remote system.


> I believe everyone understood from the beginning of this thread you were
> ssh-ing to a remote box and running Mutt on the remote machine. All the
> answers until now have been based on that.
> 
Yes, and using IMAP is an *alternative* approach to reading E-Mail
remotely.


> > OK, it has to download the file so won't be instant but at least it
> > works without any extra configuration or commands (except the extra
> > complexity, if any, of using IMAP).
> 
> I must have missed a few posts. This seems out of context.
> 
I'm trying to compare the convenience/ease of doing what I do at the
moment (ssh to remote, run mutt there) and running mutt on the local
laptop and using IMAP.  It seems as if IMAP will overcome a couple of
the niggles of ssh/mutt but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra
hassle of running an IMAP server and putting up with the extra work
(not much but there is a bit) of using mutt with IMAP.


> > > > No, as I said I just tried it and it doesn't work because Firefox is
> > > > too clever and uses the local Firefox rather than the remote one so the
> > > > file is in the wrong place.
> > > 
> > > Firefox is POS technology, but depending on the version you can start it 
> > > not
> > > to use your local/running instance. try firefox --no-remote and look 
> > > around
> > > on the web if that doesn't do it. I have run into this several times with
> > > network firefox etc and I have it working.
> > > 
> > Yes, I've done it in the past when I was at work and really needed to
> > view something that was only accessible from the browser on my home
> > machine.  Even across a fairly quick UK only internet connection it
> > was horrendously slow.
> 
> If you think that's slow then how do you think an SSH filesystem over the
> same connection will work? Sounds like a terribly bad idea. 
> 
The trouble is that Firefox via X transfers vast amounts of data to
continuously update the screen, there's no attempt at efficiency.  The
ssh filesystem won't have to transfer anything like the same amoount
of data.

-- 
Chris Green

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