Chris,

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 04:57:15AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05:50AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 07:09:22PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > It's *so* easy to grow your own vegetables.
> > 
> > No one said it was hard... most of the things you pay someone else to
> > do aren't (though some definitely are).  
> 
> Well, if you can afford your own Gardener all the better. 

You're focused on ONE MINISCULE ASPECT of the problem, which is a
negligible fraction of the total.  As such, your points don't have any
real impact on the discussion.  Come back when you're:

 - Not ever getting your food from grocery stores/restaurants, AND
 - Building everything you use from parts, AND
 - Fabricating all of those parts from raw resources, AND
 - Doing your own taxes, AND
 - Building your home yourself from materials, AND
 - Doing all home maintenance/upgrades yourself, AND
 - Meeting all your healthcare needs without doctors, AND
 - providing your own means of transportation as above, AND
 - Acting in your own films, filmed with cameras you built yourself, AND
 - ...  (so many other things that we do regularly)

Get the point yet?  You simply can't do all that stuff yourself.
Specialization is what makes virtually every aspect of modern society
possible.  The only way to avoid specialization is to avoid all of
those things entirely, live in a hut and live off the land, and decide
that when you get a potentially fatal disease you are done. 

In the modern world, you need to make decisions about which of those
things to do yourself, and pay people to do the rest of them.  That's
what specialization IS.  For the vast majority of e-mail users, making
e-mail work without having to think about how it works is one of those
items that they choose to pay somone else to do for them.


> I would consider ordering take aways/fast food the 'simple' life.

It's simple in its way, but you've missed the point.  It's very much a
part of the specialization I'm talking about, and as such it fails the
test above.

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