On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:35:02PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 02:42:20PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote:
> > BTW, in my current environment - Ubuntu 12.4 - pressing F1 does NOT
> > bring up the mutt-manual, but the manual of the gnome-termial in which
> > it is run.
> 
> Well, I explained how to fix that in a previous post.  But since you
> mention Ubuntu 12, open systems settings, then:
> 
> Hardware -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Launchers -> launch help browser
> 
> And set it to disabled (if it isn't already).

yes, it is.

> If that alone doesn't
> solve it, you may also need to disable F1 behavior in gnome-terminal
> if you use that as your terminal...  IIRC there isn't a menu option
> for it, you have to use some gconf command, google will help you find
> it I'm sure.
> 
I tried via the gnome editor, without success. But via the edit button of a 
gnome-terminal
it can be done.

Thank you!

> > but did not understand the concept of "from you": how knows mutt who is me?
> > 
> > I was then directed to the alternates command, and found 
> > 
> > "That's the purpose of the alternates command: It takes a
> > list of regular expressions, each of which can identify an
> > address under which you receive e-mail."
> > 
> > This again confused me: I wanted a decision based on the From: field,
> > so I was thinking of sending, not receiving.
> 
> As I mentioned though, there's really no reason this should be
> confusing:  The list of addresses to which you receive mail is
> (theoretically) the same list of e-mail addresses you send mail as.
> This should be obvious.  You could replace either "send as" or
> "receive to" with "use" and it would be perfectly fine.
> 
> > It takes a list of regular expressions, each of which can identify
> > an address under which you receive or send e-mail.
> > It may be used in the index_format with the format-string %F to indicate
> > that a message is from you
> 
> It doesn't really make sense to call out this one example of how
> alternates is used, as it is used in several ways.  However it should,
> arguably, list them ALL.

Yes.
>  
> > When writing this message I had a hard time to find the relevant parts of
> > the manual.
> > One would, e.g., expect a list of all variables in
> > http://mutt-ng.berlios.de/manual/variables.html
> 
> And so you do.  The table of obsolete variables that starts the
> section is just that, and is followed immediately by the rest of the
> variables.  Note at the bottom of the page, you'll see the entry for
> $abort_noattach, which you will note is not in the obsolete table.
> Clicking through the "next" links gives you all of the variables, with
> one variable per page.
> 
> Granted, this is a horrible, horrible way to present the list of
> variables; but this is a problem with the way the HTML version of the
> manual is presented--not a problem with the manual itself per se.
> 
Wouldn't it be possible and nice to have after "A complete list of current 
variables follows."
A terse, overview-like list of current variables in a similar form as that of 
the obsolete ones,
each entry linked to the respective explanation?

> > Not so. Just obsolete variables are shown (and now valid counterparts).
> > So index_format is there, alternates not.
> 
> You won't find alternates there because it is not a variable (though
> it was, once, but no longer).  It's a command.
> 
Yes, my blindness.

The command list "3. Configuration Commands" has exactly the form I would
like to see for variables.

Again, thanks for explanations.

        ulrich

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